$2000 passive attenuator

MichaelJHuman · 29th August 2005, 11:26 AM

So how does Yamaha manage to price a 5 position switch connected to a volume control for $2000?

analog_sa · 29th August 2005, 11:49 AM

Yamaha?! That's very funny if true.

Stocker · 29th August 2005, 11:57 AM

"Value is what the market is willing to bear."

peranders · 29th August 2005, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MichaelJHuman
So how does Yamaha manage to price a 5 position switch connected to a volume control for $2000?

Any further info? Which product are you referring to?

MichaelJHuman · 29th August 2005, 03:57 PM

Yamaha YPC-1

DC Dave · 29th August 2005, 04:21 PM

According to Yamaha at http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/components/ypc1.htm

* 1db(-100dB) Gang Error High Quality Continuosly Variable Attenuator with Brass Case

* Low -Resistance Rotary Selector Switch

* Extra-Thick (12mm; 1/2") Aluminum Extruded Yamaha Traditional Piano Finish Front Panel and Side Panels

* Magnetic Shielding Aluminum Top Cover and Rear Panel

* Point-Controlled, Anti-Resonance Feet

* Heavy-Duty and High Sound Quality Copper-Plated Steel Inner Chassis

It would seem that someone could DIY this for $200, but for a mass produced and marketed item, $2000 sounds about right. I would like to see an internal picture of it.

mlloyd1 · 29th August 2005, 04:22 PM

WOW !!!

http://www.audioholics.com/ces/ces20...004_day3d.html

well, it does say "continuously variable" ...
might not be a rotary switch

mlloyd1

Variac · 29th August 2005, 04:24 PM

Then they haave the "digital amp" fo it at $5000
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/components/mxd1.htm

motherone · 29th August 2005, 05:41 PM

I don't know which is more surprising, the price, or the fact that it's Yamaha making an ultra-high-end passive volume control/input selector and amp. I'm a big fan of their home theater receivers (Been using 'em for about 9 years now), but high-end gear?!

My personal guess is that it's the Alps Brass RK50 Pot, the same that Headroom uses in their amps. That's about the only way that cost could be justified (I believe Tyll w/Headroom says that the Pot runs them $700-800, and they don't mark it up when adding it to their amps).

You add that to the case, the input switch, and RCA jacks, and you're probably at $1k.

MichaelJHuman · 29th August 2005, 06:30 PM

That's one expensive pot. If Yamaha says continuously variable then its not the same pot as the head room right (headroom max?)? I thought that one used discrete resistors.

29th August 2005, 11:26 AM	#1
MichaelJHuman diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2005	$2000 passive attenuator So how does Yamaha manage to price a 5 position switch connected to a volume control for $2000?

29th August 2005, 11:57 AM	#3
Stocker diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Austin	Economics Professor Jeff Ward says: "Value is what the market is willing to bear." __________________ Jesus loves you.

29th August 2005, 04:24 PM	#8
Variac diyAudio Editor Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Francisco, USA	Then they haave the "digital amp" fo it at $5000 http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/components/mxd1.htm __________________ 2013 Burning Amp Festival announced: Sunday, October 6th in S.F. We need Volunteers & sign-up's for what you're bringing!

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29th August 2005, 11:49 AM	#2
analog_sa diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sofia	Yamaha?! That's very funny if true.

29th August 2005, 03:57 PM	#5
MichaelJHuman diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2005	Yamaha YPC-1

29th August 2005, 04:21 PM	#6
DC Dave diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Washington DC	According to Yamaha at http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/components/ypc1.htm * 1db(-100dB) Gang Error High Quality Continuosly Variable Attenuator with Brass Case * Low -Resistance Rotary Selector Switch * Extra-Thick (12mm; 1/2") Aluminum Extruded Yamaha Traditional Piano Finish Front Panel and Side Panels * Magnetic Shielding Aluminum Top Cover and Rear Panel * Point-Controlled, Anti-Resonance Feet * Heavy-Duty and High Sound Quality Copper-Plated Steel Inner Chassis It would seem that someone could DIY this for $200, but for a mass produced and marketed item, $2000 sounds about right. I would like to see an internal picture of it.

29th August 2005, 04:22 PM	#7
mlloyd1 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: illinois	WOW !!! http://www.audioholics.com/ces/ces20...004_day3d.html well, it does say "continuously variable" ... might not be a rotary switch mlloyd1

29th August 2005, 05:41 PM	#9
motherone diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle	I don't know which is more surprising, the price, or the fact that it's Yamaha making an ultra-high-end passive volume control/input selector and amp. I'm a big fan of their home theater receivers (Been using 'em for about 9 years now), but high-end gear?! My personal guess is that it's the Alps Brass RK50 Pot, the same that Headroom uses in their amps. That's about the only way that cost could be justified (I believe Tyll w/Headroom says that the Pot runs them $700-800, and they don't mark it up when adding it to their amps). You add that to the case, the input switch, and RCA jacks, and you're probably at $1k.

29th August 2005, 06:30 PM	#10
MichaelJHuman diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2005	That's one expensive pot. If Yamaha says continuously variable then its not the same pot as the head room right (headroom max?)? I thought that one used discrete resistors.

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