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Old 29th August 2005, 11:26 AM   #1
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So how does Yamaha manage to price a 5 position switch connected to a volume control for $2000?
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Old 29th August 2005, 11:49 AM   #2
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Yamaha?! That's very funny if true.
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Old 29th August 2005, 11:57 AM   #3
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So how does Yamaha manage to price a 5 position switch connected to a volume control for $2000?
Any further info? Which product are you referring to?
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Old 29th August 2005, 04:21 PM   #6
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According to Yamaha at http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/components/ypc1.htm

* 1db(-100dB) Gang Error High Quality Continuosly Variable Attenuator with Brass Case

* Low -Resistance Rotary Selector Switch

* Extra-Thick (12mm; 1/2") Aluminum Extruded Yamaha Traditional Piano Finish Front Panel and Side Panels

* Magnetic Shielding Aluminum Top Cover and Rear Panel

* Point-Controlled, Anti-Resonance Feet

* Heavy-Duty and High Sound Quality Copper-Plated Steel Inner Chassis


It would seem that someone could DIY this for $200, but for a mass produced and marketed item, $2000 sounds about right. I would like to see an internal picture of it.
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Old 29th August 2005, 04:22 PM   #7
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WOW !!!

http://www.audioholics.com/ces/ces20...004_day3d.html

well, it does say "continuously variable" ...
might not be a rotary switch

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Old 29th August 2005, 04:24 PM   #8
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Then they haave the "digital amp" fo it at $5000
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/components/mxd1.htm
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Old 29th August 2005, 05:41 PM   #9
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I don't know which is more surprising, the price, or the fact that it's Yamaha making an ultra-high-end passive volume control/input selector and amp. I'm a big fan of their home theater receivers (Been using 'em for about 9 years now), but high-end gear?!

My personal guess is that it's the Alps Brass RK50 Pot, the same that Headroom uses in their amps. That's about the only way that cost could be justified (I believe Tyll w/Headroom says that the Pot runs them $700-800, and they don't mark it up when adding it to their amps).

You add that to the case, the input switch, and RCA jacks, and you're probably at $1k.
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Old 29th August 2005, 06:30 PM   #10
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That's one expensive pot. If Yamaha says continuously variable then its not the same pot as the head room right (headroom max?)? I thought that one used discrete resistors.
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