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Old 28th September 2002, 04:29 PM   #21
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one thing email collectors do to get email addresses is simple:

send out an email to a random lettered email address, if it's good the email gets accepted, if it's not, then an error message comes back.

now just write a program around that...

if email comes back as an error, then do not store email.

else

store email address.

/end of program

Begin selling addresses to people....


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Old 28th September 2002, 07:49 PM   #22
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send out an email to a random lettered email address, if it's good the email gets accepted, if it's not, then an error message comes back.
Can it be so? It's so meaningless, email people in total random. Today I got three spams (from the same place but different return addresses) about bying Viagra cheap. Is it a trick to spell Viagra V.I.A.G.R.A? Get through filters?
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Old 28th September 2002, 08:59 PM   #23
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Spammers can just pick a well known domain that provides email, take a name list, which you can find anywhere online, then append letters and numbers afterwords, just millions of messages. Most spammers would like to build a profile on who they spam, which is what thing like Gator do, or when you sign up for a email service and it asks you questions about your interests - they are just building a profile on you, they can make more profits when spamming you(That was a nice run-on sentance, no?). If you're using a spam filter, and a very poor one, then that could be away around it.
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Old 28th September 2002, 11:23 PM   #24
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Although they do want to profile you so that they can target
their spam mails better, most of them just send out spam mail
systematically. Either they simply go through all possible
combinations of letters and digits up to some length for the
major ISPs, or they buy CDROMS with email lists.

Targeting is very bad. I have never indicated any need for
taking loans in the US, I do not consider myself in need of
either Viagra, cures for losing weight, anti-Anthrax antibioticum
or gasmasks, CDROMS with email address lists for sending out
advertiesements (ie. spam mail), yet I frequently receive such
offers (well, the anthrax was a temporary thing a year ago).
Furthermore, can anybody explain why somebody thinks that
I, a mail living in Sweden, would be interested in consulting a
gyneacologist in Washington DC??
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Old 1st October 2002, 06:39 AM   #25
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*@dealdelivery.com
*@youwebspecials.com

those two are notoriously bad addresses from which i get spam on a daily basis too

i blocked them completely and i havent got a spam email since
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Old 1st October 2002, 08:24 AM   #26
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PerAnders,

If you like me have Telia as ISP you know that you have an account name with a letter and some digits. These are mapped to your actual e-mail address in their system. However you can also send e-mail directly to the account name (which is stupid IMO). When the bad guys pick up one they know the other zillion automatically...not too difficult.

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Old 1st October 2002, 08:50 AM   #27
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UrSv, I have an account with ms343282@xyz.se connected to my "normal" adress, but still, I don't want to change my real address, what shall I do? Is it possible to set up a "firewall" of some kind? Tele2 seems not to have any spam blocking features. You can only complain about spam and abuse coming from within the Tele2 net, so it seems.
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Old 1st October 2002, 09:34 AM   #28
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PerAnders,

Looks like the perfect username system for spammers...

I think most of the Internet Security suites give you options to block unwanted senders and spammers. If nothing else try that.

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Looks like the perfect username system for spammers...

I think most of the Internet Security suites give you options to block unwanted senders and spammers. If nothing else try that.
Yes, but does Tele2 have those or do they bother? I don't see how I can make these spams simply get sucked up in the cyber space or bounce back?
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Old 1st October 2002, 06:57 PM   #30
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All,

It seems we're all suffering the same nuisance.
Forgive me if I repeat someone else's statement here,I admit to not having read all the err,"spam".

Be it at home or at work,it's about time these people understand that playing "Big Brother" is rather counterproductive.

Experience confirms that:

-no matter what ISP you're choosing,sooner or later they may sell off their addressee's list.

-no matter what you do,you just can't win.

-The way they generate random e-mail addresses is as simple as it comes.

-You already complain on an average of three (3) spam mails a day?

-Any proposed solution to the problem is not always effective either;

Here are some random ideas you may can try:

-Use "Big Brother's" own tools and use something like a web based account for anything not "personal".

-Block anything you do not want to see in your mailbox,online.

-It may not surprise you when I say that that mailbox catches most of the junk.The advantage of an internet based mailbox is that it will not hit your hard disk unless you let it.

-In my personal mailbox I never had any spam so far.I do hold my breath.

-I use a decent router,any software telling me (as spamware) that my IP address is exposed is telling me my provider has his IP exposed in reality.

-Since I can't tell my ISP where to hit it off and they seem to be secure behind their firewalls,so am I... for the moment.

-I'm not overly paranoid on exposure on the internet,I do have an understanding of what TCPIP is,what it can and can not do.

-No,there is no such thing as security much the same way as there is no such thing as insurance against insecurity either.

-What I also do is monitor any suspicious activity from the installed software firewall,some out there is actually really good.

-With firewall software it is as whith backup software,if you do not use it in the right way there is no point in having it.

No need to panic?
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