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Old 23rd March 2005, 05:41 PM   #1
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Default which amp has had the least ear fatigue?

I am just curious what amps you guys have listened to that you would consider the least fatigueing?
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Old 26th March 2005, 07:03 PM   #2
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non clipping amps sound least fatiguing to me...
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Old 26th March 2005, 07:31 PM   #3
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am just curious what amps you guys have listened to that you would consider the least fatigueing?

Most tube amps sans NFB.
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Old 26th March 2005, 08:24 PM   #4
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Most tube amps sans NFB
I partly disagree on that one. Tube amps may sound less fatiguing when driven into clipping, because tubes clip less "hard" than solid state devices. The part I disagree on, is no NFB. No NFB usually means low power. Low power means clipping at lower volume levels. That again leads to more fatigue.
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No NFB usually means low power.
Really?
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Old 26th March 2005, 09:41 PM   #6
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I partly disagree on that one
Let's be honest: you haven't really heard any such amp, have you?


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Tube amps may sound less fatiguing when driven into clipping
Clipping?! Do you think i am into building guitar amps?


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That again leads to more fatigue.
Only your clueless opinions lead to more fatigue. The clipping level of the amp is completely meaningless unless you know the sensitivity of the speakers and the listening volume.
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Old 27th March 2005, 12:24 AM   #7
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because tubes clip less "hard" than solid state devices.
It depends on the type of circuit, as well. Not everyone builds SET amps, you know!

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No NFB usually means low power.
Huh?
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Old 27th March 2005, 12:41 AM   #8
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guess I am wrong at that point then

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Let's be honest: you haven't really heard any such amp, have you?
I have actually. One of them is a big amp in a big case, with about 60 watts per channel. I thought this was an exception to the rule NFB amps had little output, but it seems not...

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\ The clipping level of the amp is completely meaningless unless you know the sensitivity of the speakers and the listening volume.
That is true. But I think that an amplifier that causes listening fatigue is either a bad amplifier, or a clipping amplifier.

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Old 28th March 2005, 04:30 AM   #9
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I spent years trying to put togeather a system that was not tiring to listen to and have according to my own ears done just that
Sibilance was what bothered me the most.
The amp that I settled on is an Arcam A85.
I did not look into tube amps.
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