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Old 7th August 2002, 09:54 PM   #11
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I also took one as part of an entrance exam to attend a particular college, never got the result but I did get a place on the course, so I guess it was reasonable.
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Old 7th August 2002, 10:31 PM   #12
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I read a very interesting article the other day about logic.
It was trying to prove that logic is not ingrained into humans. It is learned. Furthermore, not all cultures have logic.
Here was an example from the article:
An African tribesman was told that up north all bears are white. Then he was told that his brother, who was visiting the north, saw a bear. The question posed to the tribesman: "What color was the bear?" His reply: "I didn't see the bear, why don't you ask my brother?"
The man could not answer the question. It wasn't becuase he was stupid, but because he never learned to think logically.
I thought it was weird.
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Old 8th August 2002, 12:46 AM   #13
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Default Flawed Testing

My understanding is that IQ tests really only guage how good you are at doing IQ tests.
25 years ago, before an entrance exam, that turned out to be a 5 hour IQ test, a friend loaned me several Penguin Press IQ test books.
With a bit of practice you learn to glom onto quickly what might have seemed an obscure question in subsequent tests.
Practice at example tests helps in subsequent ones, so the tests are guaging experience (knowledge) also, as opposed to straight out reasoning power (intelligence ?).

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Old 8th August 2002, 06:04 AM   #14
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Ahhhh well, at least it gives the weak and nerdy something they can possible boast about in this day and age.

BTW, I work with a fellow in his early forties like me, who when he was 14 did a MENSA test and he got 165 which was as high as the test would measure. This same person comes into work with his jumper inside out, shoes not done up, and tooth paste on his face. In contrast to me, he has zero power of intuitive reasoning, everything belonging in the mathematical realm. My limits are similar to Excels limits whereas he gives Mathematica a good hiding. My favourite story about him (of many BTW) is the time he went to the hardware shop and bought a long plank of wood and opened the back of his station wagon and rested the far end of the wood on the dashboard so it would just fit in the length of the car - or so he estimated. He then slammed the rear hatch door down and consequently rammed the other end of the wood through the windscreen. Something about spatial ability there.

Some of my closest friends have been people who are as thick as two short planks, but the point is that they were really nice people. I'd choose that over IQ any day.

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Old 8th August 2002, 06:10 AM   #15
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My 2 cents

It was an absolute crock and i cant believe the attention that it brought about. It was an IQ test for crying out loud. As much as I am sure we all struggled with 8-5, it was simply an exercise in marketing. My congratulations go out to the nine network, for pulling in so many suckers (except for DIYers). They made an absolute packet on a TEST, I cant remember ever looking forward to a test.
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who wants to take bets that the FOX channel will air something like this in the US during the upcoming TV season. Only with dumber questions I'm guessing....

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Default Lowest Common Denominator

Yeah, maybe The Jerry Springer Show could have a show on this.
Probably no surprises though.

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It seems to me that everyone who takes an IQ and scores low is ready to discredit it and those who score high laud it. After all, if I am successful in society and have the respect of my peers how dare some objective test tell me I'm an idiot? I read an interesting psychological study once that put a group of idiots together and the "alpha retard" if you will, actually gestured himself as though he were a peer of a higher IQ grouping he was introduced to and tried to contribute by stating obvious points in a loud voice in order to impress his leadership on the new peergroup. Further studies have shown that retards associated in peer groups of high IQ and later introduced to groups of higher intelligence than his own but less than his original peer group, considered himself smarter than this new group because of his former association. Is it any wonder that IQ tests are the source of such derision?

The only formula for true wisdom is being able to recognize the truth of something. It is only this that will enable the incorrect to correct themselves and the ignorant to learn. As you may have already guessed, this requires a certain humilty which is too rare a condition in human nature. Right opinion on something you don't know is closer to the truth than knowing something wrong. If you scored poorly, suck it up and know you can still do the right things if you follow what is true no matter who finds it out.
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Default Old Wisdom

Yes, an accepted definition of 'wisdom is to learn by your mistakes'.
I prefer 'wisdom is to learn by other's mistakes'.

But "Right opinion on something you don't know" - Huh ?.
"by stating obvious points in a loud voice in order to impress" - yeah i've see some of that happening around here.

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Default Re: Engineering Exam/IQ Test

REDNECK ENGINEERING EXAM

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do yer got da ansas? I think I don' gone an' scor'd good.
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