The Integral Transference Project

EchoWars · 21st November 2004, 01:23 PM

A gentleman over at AudioKarma.org posted a rather bizarre thread regarding some 'revolution' in home audio, called the Integral Transference Project. I have not have the time to dig through it as of yet, but some of the best minds in audio tend to cruise these forums, so I thought perhaps that if I called attention to the site here, perhaps some basic understanding on just WTH this thing is all about might be at hand.

What I've read so far is thick and the overall concept is muddied by writing that appears more to be trying to impress a university professor rather than make clear the basic idea and then delve into techicalities. Whatever it is, I certainly plan on doing battle with the white papers offered at the site, and would be way more than curious of the thoughts of those who know and understand the behavior and nature of sound reproduction better than I.

Brilliance or BS, either way, the link is there for your perusal. Now if a few Ph.D's will step up and tell me what these guys are doing...

SY · 21st November 2004, 01:35 PM

Rule of Thumb: when someone uses the word "paradigm," be cautious. When someone uses it in the first sentence, be VERY cautious. When someone uses it seven times on a page, you're almost certainly dealing with either BS or some simple idea being puffed up to make it seem grand.

EchoWars · 21st November 2004, 01:48 PM

Did a little deeper...perhaps a few of the white papers. This guy has done some serious research into this whole thing. Few go to these lengths to propagate BS...

It may be a basic idea dissected to the point where it looks unrecognizable, but then again...

pinkmouse · 21st November 2004, 01:56 PM

Well, for a start, he needs to be taken out, put against a wall, and shot for his abuse of the English language...

If anyone, supposedly that educated, can't write clearly and coherently, then they are trying to hide something.

:edit: I got to figure 20 in the second white paper, and it all clicked into place... It's an April Fools joke...

SY · 21st November 2004, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Few go to these lengths to propagate BS...

My oh my, I wish that were true!

Mr Evil · 21st November 2004, 03:08 PM

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macro-micro

That has to be the most clever-stupid use of those words that I have ever seen!

Sch3mat1c · 21st November 2004, 07:24 PM

:Blink:... two random sentences are enough BS for me... brrr

The diagrams (what few I bothered to look at) seem to be getting at reproducing sound as it comes from the instrument, spatially. It'd be cheaper to staff performers and buy their instruments.

Tim

EchoWars · 21st November 2004, 10:35 PM

The author of these papers has joined in a discussion in a thread over at AudioKarma. Anyone who's curiosity is piqued might hop over and jump right in...

http://65.219.61.150/forums/showthread.php?t=27112

EchoWars · 22nd November 2004, 04:39 AM

OK, the gentleman has made it clear that he is not the author of these papers. Whatever...

audiowkstation · 24th November 2004, 03:42 AM

Hello. To the moderator. Could you please delete this post? The poster did not have proper permission to link the post from the original site. Thank you for your consideration and cooperation. If you have any questions, PM me and I can call you in person. Thank you.

21st November 2004, 01:23 PM	#1
EchoWars diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Left of the Dial	The Integral Transference Project A gentleman over at AudioKarma.org posted a rather bizarre thread regarding some 'revolution' in home audio, called the Integral Transference Project. I have not have the time to dig through it as of yet, but some of the best minds in audio tend to cruise these forums, so I thought perhaps that if I called attention to the site here, perhaps some basic understanding on just WTH this thing is all about might be at hand. What I've read so far is thick and the overall concept is muddied by writing that appears more to be trying to impress a university professor rather than make clear the basic idea and then delve into techicalities. Whatever it is, I certainly plan on doing battle with the white papers offered at the site, and would be way more than curious of the thoughts of those who know and understand the behavior and nature of sound reproduction better than I. Brilliance or BS, either way, the link is there for your perusal. Now if a few Ph.D's will step up and tell me what these guys are doing...

21st November 2004, 01:35 PM	#2
SY diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Austin, TX Blog Entries: 1	Rule of Thumb: when someone uses the word "paradigm," be cautious. When someone uses it in the first sentence, be VERY cautious. When someone uses it seven times on a page, you're almost certainly dealing with either BS or some simple idea being puffed up to make it seem grand. __________________ “Listening to records is like ****ing a picture of Brigitte Bardot.” - Sergiu Celibidache

21st November 2004, 01:56 PM	#4
pinkmouse diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chatham, England	Well, for a start, he needs to be taken out, put against a wall, and shot for his abuse of the English language... If anyone, supposedly that educated, can't write clearly and coherently, then they are trying to hide something. :edit: I got to figure 20 in the second white paper, and it all clicked into place... It's an April Fools joke... __________________ Al I conceive of nothing, in religion, science or philosophy, that is more than the proper thing to wear, for a while. Charles Fort

21st November 2004, 07:24 PM	#7
Sch3mat1c diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI	:Blink:... two random sentences are enough BS for me... brrr The diagrams (what few I bothered to look at) seem to be getting at reproducing sound as it comes from the instrument, spatially. It'd be cheaper to staff performers and buy their instruments. Tim __________________ See my Electronics webpage -- the home of Vacuum Tube Drag Racing. The key to being a successful Audiophile: "I reject your reality and substitute my own!"

24th November 2004, 03:42 AM	#10
audiowkstation diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA	To the moderator. Hello. To the moderator. Could you please delete this post? The poster did not have proper permission to link the post from the original site. Thank you for your consideration and cooperation. If you have any questions, PM me and I can call you in person. Thank you.


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21st November 2004, 01:48 PM	#3
EchoWars diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Left of the Dial	Did a little deeper...perhaps a few of the white papers. This guy has done some serious research into this whole thing. Few go to these lengths to propagate BS... It may be a basic idea dissected to the point where it looks unrecognizable, but then again...

21st November 2004, 10:35 PM	#8
EchoWars diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Left of the Dial	The author of these papers has joined in a discussion in a thread over at AudioKarma. Anyone who's curiosity is piqued might hop over and jump right in... http://65.219.61.150/forums/showthread.php?t=27112

22nd November 2004, 04:39 AM	#9
EchoWars diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Left of the Dial	OK, the gentleman has made it clear that he *is not* the author of these papers. Whatever...

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