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Old 15th July 2004, 02:26 AM   #1
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Default One way to make expensive speaker cables!

Have you ever wondered what is inside the boxes that are attached to Transparent and MIT cables........................Zobel networks of course.

I was on Audio Asylum and someone posted this link to a German site where someone had taken a Transparent cable apart. You might be surprised at what he found inside. Now you know what makes that cable so expensive....something to experiment with.

http://www.faktiskt.se/modules.php?n...er=asc&start=0

I have been recently been experimenting with Zobels with good results..........but outcome depends on the particular application.

The definitive text on the subject is by Mr.Nelson Pass and is available here...

http://passlabs.com/pdf/spkrcabl.pdf

.....and if only we had listened to him years ago, when he wrote it.
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Old 15th July 2004, 03:16 AM   #2
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im not overly surprised. i remember seeing some of those cables at a shop once, and i picked up that box. in the pictures i had seen, it always looked like it would be heavy. when i picked it up, it was apparent it was hollow and felt as if the cable was just going right through. sure enough.

the box is this plastic crap too, its not even a metal box. oh well.
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Old 15th July 2004, 03:25 AM   #3
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Default Re: One way to make expensive speaker cables!

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I was on Audio Asylum and someone posted this link to a German site where someone had taken a Transparent cable apart. You might be surprised at what he found inside. Now you know what makes that cable so expensive....something to experiment with.


Great link...but its a swedish forum.

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Old 15th July 2004, 03:28 AM   #4
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Magura,

Sorry..........goes to show that I don't know my Swedish from my
German..............where is Fred when you need him?

Any volunteers to take a MIT cable apart?
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Old 15th July 2004, 03:40 AM   #5
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Or, well. It shoulds you how much truth there is in those "cables".

Didn't we do our own test somewhere here? two forum posters who swear they can hear cable directionality were sent two directional cables, and nothing came out of that.

Weird.
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Old 15th July 2004, 05:28 AM   #6
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Alph core recommends the same thing for the goertz line of cables, but they don't disguise it, they add them if you think your amp will have problems driving a capacitive load, a much more respectable approach.
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agreed.

throwing a HUGE box on there to make it look like its worth a ton of money is a bit deceiving. and they charge and arm and a leg for cables too.
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Old 15th July 2004, 06:44 AM   #8
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Old 15th July 2004, 07:13 AM   #9
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Rod Elliot recently put up an article on his site regarding some tests he made regarding cables and zobels. I'm over simplifiying but it sort of worked out that if you just take some lamp cord and stick a zobel on the far end you can be right there with the high priced boys.
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so how much are those cables in the pictures ?
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