One way to make expensive speaker cables!

[carlmart]

But there was something on this matter that was interesting: active cables. That is cables using batteries or a power supply to polarize the wires.

Has anyone tried something like that?


Carlos

[Steve Eddy]

Originally posted by carlmart
But there was something on this matter that was interesting: active cables. That is cables using batteries or a power supply to polarize the wires.

Has anyone tried something like that?

I haven't.

I just can't seem to come to grips philosophically with turning my cables into microphones (the dielectric biasing used in these cables is essentially the same principle behind what makes condenser microphones work).

se

[Steve Eddy]

Originally posted by carlmart
Lately, a Kimber associate also could get through a patent on series crossovers. Are the patent inspectors (or whatever they are called) blind on what's popular knowledge and what's not?

Apparently. Kimber was even able to get a patent on something which had already been patented (back in 1958) and is still being made and sold today (Magnetic Shield Corporation's Inter-8 Weave cable).

se

[carlmart]

Originally posted by Steve Eddy


Apparently. Kimber was even able to get a patent on something which had already been patented (back in 1958) and is still being made and sold today (Magnetic Shield Corporation's Inter-8 Weave cable).

So we better laugh at them and use whatever we want when it refers to such ridiculous stuff.

About the biased cables, philosopohically there might be a point, but then you wouldn't use condenser mics or listen to anything recorded using them. Which is now probably 99% of what we listen to that is considered good sounding.

Or any other active electronics by the way, as they need to be biased.


Carlos

[Steve Eddy]

Originally posted by carlmart
So we better laugh at them and use whatever we want when it refers to such ridiculous stuff.

Guess so. What I found particularly laughable is that even after Kimber was made aware of the fact that they'd patented something which had been patented over 40 years ago, they still refer to it as their "unique GyroQuadratic field geometry."

About the biased cables, philosopohically there might be a point, but then you wouldn't use condenser mics or listen to anything recorded using them. Which is now probably 99% of what we listen to that is considered good sounding.

You kidding me? Some of the finest recording microphones in the world are are condenser microphones.



se

[thomas997]

Originally posted by Steve Eddy

You kidding me? Some of the finest recording microphones in the world are are condenser microphones.

I think he means we wouldnt listen to music being produced from a microphone

[carlmart]

Originally posted by Steve Eddy


You kidding me? Some of the finest recording microphones in the world are are condenser microphones.

So if biased microphones are better, why not try cables and see if they can too?


Carlos

[SY]

Originally posted by carlmart


So if biased microphones are better, why not try cables and see if they can too?


Carlos

Ummm... because mikes and cables are two different things that operate two different ways with two different functions and made of two different materials with two different geometries?

I just read a review of some so-called biased cables. The guy doing the review was fairly clueless but tried hard to bring a dose of skepticism to the manufacturer's claims. He concluded that the cables were very good but that the biasing did nothing for the sound. The manufacturer, in his comments, then proceeded to scour the reviewer for not being an expert in the technology and said a whole pile of incorrect things, designed (I presume) to mislead and help promote his new (and $$$$) product line. There's probably an honest cable company out there, but I haven't found it yet.

[carlmart]

Originally posted by SY

There's probably an honest cable company out there, but I haven't found it yet.

Yes, it's hard to go around the mumbo-jumbo that prevails on the cable market.

There was a DIY active cable project, proposed by a German or French enthusiast on his site, that seemed interesting. I probably have a copy somewhere. Perhaps someone here knew about it or even tried it.


Carlos

[Steve Eddy]

Originally posted by thomas997
I think he means we wouldnt listen to music being produced from a microphone

That's not how I read it. And judging from his reply, that's apparently not what he meant.

se