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Old 31st May 2004, 07:15 PM   #1
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Default Cotton-insulated silver wire

Was over on VHAudio's website the other day and noticed that they're selling some very nice looking cotton-insulated, 28 gauge, solid core silver wire. I say nice looking because I haven't tried any of it and silver's not been my cup o' tea anyway. Just thought it was a rather unique product that those who do like silver might be interested in.

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Was over on VHAudio's website the other day and noticed that they're selling some very nice looking cotton-insulated, 28 gauge, solid core silver wire. I say nice looking because I haven't tried any of it and silver's not been my cup o' tea anyway. Just thought it was a rather unique product that those who do like silver might be interested in.
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Old 31st May 2004, 11:26 PM   #3
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Hi,

Thanx,Steve...

Chris jumped into business after all...

Anyway, that cable at least looks as if the cotton is sleeved over the bare wire...

Not like some other vendors I've seen on the web who are religiously offering ML insulated silverwire and the cotton sleeving to go with it...
You wonder what good that cotton's gonna do on that one?
So do I...

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From Venhaus' site:

Cotton has a dielectric constant of 1.3 to 1.4, which is even LOWER than foamed PE (1.6) or FEP (1.5). Another significant advantage of cotton insulation is its dampening and non-resonant properties.
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Thanx,Steve...

Chris jumped into business after all...
Yup. He made the jump a while back.

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Anyway, that cable at least looks as if the cotton is sleeved over the bare wire...
Yup. It's a four layer serve.

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Not like some other vendors I've seen on the web who are religiously offering ML insulated silverwire and the cotton sleeving to go with it...
You wonder what good that cotton's gonna do on that one?
So do I...
Hehehe. Well, if one has concerns about mechanical vibration and such it could serve a useful purpose.

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Cotton has a dielectric constant of 1.3 to 1.4, which is even LOWER than foamed PE (1.6) or FEP (1.5). Another significant advantage of cotton insulation is its dampening and non-resonant properties.
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Hi,

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Well, if one has concerns about mechanical vibration and such it could serve a useful purpose.
LOL...

Let's just hope it comes with a few mothballs thrown in too...

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Yup. It's a four layer serve.
Been watching Roland Garros on Memorial Day perhaps?

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Old 12th June 2004, 03:15 PM   #6
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Is the cotton treated in any way to control its moisture content?
If so, with what, and what is its characteristics, if not, that great dielectric will vary with humidity. Perhaps baking it and then sealing the whole shebang in a hermetically sealed teflon tube would be the ticket.
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What about oxidation resistance?
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Is the cotton treated in any way to control its moisture content?
If so, with what, and what is its characteristics, if not, that great dielectric will vary with humidity. Perhaps baking it and then sealing the whole shebang in a hermetically sealed teflon tube would be the ticket.
I don't believe it's been treated. Chris told me he went to some lengths to make sure the cotton was as natural as possible without any bleaching or dying, etc.

You'd have to aks Chris to make certain.

And it should be noted that humidity in the air will affect the the sound coming out of your speakers anyway (high frequencies will attenuate more). Is your room hermetically sealed in Teflon?

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What about oxidation resistance?
Not sure what you mean. Do you mean resistance to oxidation or resistance due to oxidation?

Silver doesn't oxidize at room temperatures anyway as far as I'm aware. It's sulfur and sulfur compounds that will tarnish it.

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Not sure what you mean. Do you mean resistance to oxidation or resistance due to oxidation?

Silver doesn't oxidize at room temperatures anyway as far as I'm aware. It's sulfur and sulfur compounds that will tarnish it.

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I'm talking tarnish. Silver just sitting around tarnishes in Los Angeles' air.
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