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Old 6th February 2015, 09:36 PM   #1
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I am going to add an electrical stove in my kitchen near to my fridge, microwave, e-grill, toaster and coffee machine! At this time I have a 16A breaker on the feedline for it and a 1,5mm copper! What changes should I do? I have a place where it could be pluged in and never removed from there looking at it the way that the socket has never had anything else plugged in ever, no loose contacts so that heat would build up! Thank you!
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Old 6th February 2015, 09:45 PM   #2
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I am going to add an electrical stove in my kitchen At this time I have a 16A breaker on the feedline for it and a 1,5mm copper! What changes should I do?
This should be ok. If you have several appliances on at the same time, you may want to use separate circuits to avoid tripping the breaker.
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Old 6th February 2015, 09:48 PM   #3
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I am thinking to put a 20A breaker, I am at times having my fridge run auto turn-on , microwave 1200w for about 3min and oven plus top spot of the oven for cooking, would that be too much?
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Old 6th February 2015, 09:51 PM   #4
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Old 6th February 2015, 10:17 PM   #5
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I am thinking to put a 20A breaker, I am at times having my fridge run auto turn-on ,
microwave 1200w for about 3min and oven plus top spot of the oven for cooking, would that be too much?

Probably yes. Bear in mind that the breaker should trip before the wire is stressed. Try to use several separate circuits.
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Old 6th February 2015, 10:21 PM   #6
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That means new breaker, new wires through the ceiling?!
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Old 6th February 2015, 10:27 PM   #7
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That means new breaker, new wires through the ceiling?!
Maybe so, I'd get advice from a local electrician.
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Old 6th February 2015, 11:42 PM   #8
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Hello!

I am going to add an electrical stove in my kitchen near to my fridge, microwave, e-grill, toaster and coffee machine! At this time I have a 16A breaker on the feedline for it and a

1,5mm copper!

What changes should I do? I have a place where it could be pluged in and never removed from there looking at it the way that the socket has never had anything else plugged in ever, no loose contacts so that heat would build up! Thank you!
Um, here we have 240volt, and 1.5mm is only used for light circuits.
For normal power points its 2.5mm and above.
for high current items like ovens etc, its 4mm and above.

Running anything in the kitchen with 1.5mm cable is just begging to have the house burn down.

And double this for 110volt.

I won't even mention that you need to allow for the length of the cable from circuit breaker to the device.
Or where and how the cable is run (under insulation etc).
Thermal de-rating of cable.
Type of cable (copper clad steel, single core, multi core, etc)

To save you the heart break of a burnt out house or someones death, PLEASE, contact a licensed electrician in your country.
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Old 7th February 2015, 02:43 PM   #9
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Old n Cranky is correct..

In the UK 1.5 lighting backed up with 6A breaker
2.5 ring main or 4mm radial. 32 amp breaker

Cooker is dependant on power rating..this effects the cable size based upon installation. (clipped to a wall or in between plaster board etc) this derates the cable capacity.

Check the regulations for your country. Normally the breaker is protecting the cable not the appliance.

NB its not unusual to see 6mm or larger and the length effects the size as well..

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Old 7th February 2015, 02:52 PM   #10
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Ok some sord solved it! On my apliances that do no more than 1300w per piece I have the copper wire 1,5mm, and a breaker of 16A! For the oven I thought a 20A breaker with 2,5mm copper wire that will run through a plastic put against the wall with a lead on top of it! This oven is class A++ so to be said, year of production now three years ago when the first piece was lauched! A 4,5mm wire shoul do only for the oven or once more, wouldn't it?
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