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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: US
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this is a NYT article from way back and I thought it might be of use for our cable discussion. Enjoy.
A few highlights: "experts are in agreement that most cables that claim to improve the sound of audio equipment don't. Even cables costing thousands of dollars per foot are often little more than sonic snake oil, experts say. " "Polk Audio, a well respected manufacturer of loudspeakers in Baltimore, no longer makes cables but declined an invitation to set up a listening test in its laboratories. One reason it gave was that the test could affect relationships with audio stores. "We would be hearing from every retailer in the country," said Paul Dicomo, communications director for Polk Audio. " "What we do is kind of dirty and stinky," he said. "We say we are starting with a 12 WAG zip cord, and we position a technician behind each speaker to change the cables out." The technicians hold up fancy-looking cables before they disappear behind the speakers. The critics debate the sound characteristics of each wire. "They describe huge changes and they say, 'Oh my God, John, tell me you can hear that difference,'" Mr. Dunlavy said. The trick is the technicians never actually change the cables, he said, adding, "It's the placebo effect." http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/...es/23down.html |
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diyAudio Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Belgium
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Hi,
No homeopathy for you either then, just plain placebos? Cheers,
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Who does the NYT consider an "expert"?
I sympathize with the thought, and I think there's a lot of truth here, but there's a lot of nuance missed.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Perth, Australia.
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Just a bunch of 'amusing anecdotes' without proofs.
Eric.
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diyAudio Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Belgium
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Hi,
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IDIOTS. Quote:
IDIOTS. Quote:
They must be sooo proud of themselves.... And NO, I am not going to prove anything to anyone, get a life and enjoy it. Cheers,
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sacramento, CA
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i just dont understand how people can say that cables dont make a difference. i have done SO many swaps on cables and they do make a difference... even when i have forgotten what cables i had in my system, i knew something sounded off, and was adjusting, tweaking and messing with things, until i realized, "oh yeah, i changed the cables last week". then i change them back and its like i remember.
im not even saying i have a golden ear, its sometimes hard for me to tell the difference between sources and amp (of HIGH end), but cables are like night and day to me! |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Perth, Australia.
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"And NO, I am not going to prove anything to anyone, get a life and enjoy it."
Don't you mean get some cables that you like and enjoy them !!!. Eric.
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Belgium
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Hi,
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Mind you, I design quite a few cables but I'm still at a loss why they make a difference... Is it due to input/output capacitance? Is it just because I see through ideal mathemathical models ? Am I that bright? Cheers,
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Perth, Australia.
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Eric.
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