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Old 17th September 2013, 02:12 AM   #1
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Hey all, just so you all know, never, ever send paypal funds thru "Family and Friends" option. That option saves fees for the recipient. What paypal doesn't tell you is you have NO Dispute Options. Zero.

I was scammed by a seller who asked me to send funds to ship a pair of Dynaco MKIII Clone tube amps. He requested a special type of payment called "Friends and Family", as this way, he would save on the fees. He sounded like a nice older guy on a tight budget, and I thought I was doing him a favor.

When nothing showed up, and his cell phone was disconnected, I knew something was up. The only way I could get a paypal claim initiated was to claim FRAUD, as he personally asked me to pay him this way so there would be no way to dispute....not to save him money...

BTW - I found this Jerk-wad on Lima Ohio Craigslist, not here on DIYAudio...

Careful out there!! Won't fall for that again!!
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Old 23rd September 2013, 10:49 PM   #2
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Perhaps this little paypal story will cheer you up?

"PayPal: if you don't like the violin you bought, smash it and we'll
give you your money back

Just when you thought PayPal couldn't get any stupider, well, they get
stupider. Erica sold an antique violin to someone who paid $2500 for
it over PayPal. The buyer disputed the authenticity of the violin --
which had been authenticated by a top luthier -- and PayPal instructed
him that he could have his money back if he destroyed the violin. He
did, and sent the photo of the destroyed, one-of-a-kind, precious
instrument to the seller and PayPal. PayPal took the $2500 back from
Erica, gave it to the violin-smasher, and called it a day.

I am now out a violin that made it through WWII as well as $2500.
This is of course, upsetting. But my main goal in writing to you is to
prevent PayPal from ordering the destruction of violins and other
antiquities that they know nothing about. It is beyond me why PayPal
simply didn’t have the violin returned to me.

I spoke on the phone to numerous reps from PayPal who 100%
defended their action and gave me the party line."
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Old 23rd September 2013, 11:59 PM   #3
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Unreal. This is what you pay them that 3%?

I cannot wait for both Facebook and Google to come out with their own version of PAYPAL (supposedly in the works). God knows it cannot be any worse...

I consider myself lucky, solving any disputes before PAYPAL gets too involved (all 4 of them in past 15 years) - and all decided in my favor.

The key is to stay involved - most of the time people just don't reply to the dispute, and relinquish all rights...and lose badly.
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