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Old 12th September 2013, 08:05 PM   #11
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I suppose one could run two circuits to each room, and pay accordingly for it, but sharing lighting and receptacles makes the most sense from a safety, and cost, point of view.
Yes, that's what I did. Two lighting circuits in the basement and two receptacle circuits. As one who works in the electrical industry, I'll be the judge of what is lazy and what is safe. It is done to save money, plain and simple.

There hasn't been one lighting circuit for the entire home since maybe pre-WWI. You are taking your argument to the extreme. These days even in a rental unit you have at least 4 circuits plus the dedicated loads (stove, a/c).

Rob, you have high source impedance from the utility transformer, causing voltage drop all the way to the panel. No simple fix, certainly not for a rental.
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Old 12th September 2013, 10:38 PM   #12
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Yes, that's what I did. Two lighting circuits in the basement and two receptacle circuits. As one who works in the electrical industry, I'll be the judge of what is lazy and what is safe. It is done to save money, plain and simple.
Saving money is not always lazy. By the way, you're not the only one who works in the electrical industry and not the sole judge.

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There hasn't been one lighting circuit for the entire home since maybe pre-WWI. You are taking your argument to the extreme. These days even in a rental unit you have at least 4 circuits plus the dedicated loads (stove, a/c).
I can remember a duplex built in the 60's that still stands today, it's not taking it to the extremes. While what you did is how I would do it, separate lighting and receptacle circuits are not the norm.
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Old 12th September 2013, 11:15 PM   #13
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separate lighting and receptacle circuits are not the norm.
Actually they are mandated - depending on location of course

But getting back to the original post, if there is enough voltage drop to dim some lights then there is also enough power dissipated as heat to eventually cause a fire in that part of the house wiring, in my judgement, as one who has worked in the electrical industry.

At least make sure your contents are insured: at best, get it checked.
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Old 12th September 2013, 11:26 PM   #14
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Sounds like a fault to me also. Could it be a breaker about to fail, any of them heating up? I'd be bugging my landlord to get an electrician in to check that out asap.
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Old 13th September 2013, 01:18 AM   #15
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I'm not so sure its a problem with the house. Its not very frequent I have the opportunity to crank it up, under normal operation i have no issues, only a party. Consider I'm running a crown CE2000, speakercraft BB50s, rat shack mpa 200 along with my laptop, a 42" plasma 2 equalizers and a tuner plus the pool pump and the a/c is running constant to keep up with the extra body's, well pump (no city water),I have 2 refrigerators (sometimes up to 4 if they'r all plugged in), lighting ect... I'm sure the meter is spinning in overdrive. My house draws allot of electric, I'm just looking to protect my amps.

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Old 13th September 2013, 01:20 AM   #16
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I'm moving out of this joint in a few months anyways (noise complaints stacking up), I'll let everyone know if the next house is any better lol.
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Old 13th September 2013, 02:14 AM   #17
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I'm thinking the earlier suggestion of a large generator was not so daft in this case

The battery solution would maybe work but you would need a couple of tractor battery's at the very least, 2 pairs would be better. You can then run either a large, expensive, heavy and noisy transmotor or a VERY big invertor to get mains for your hifi for say about 2hrs before they are flat again


Even after doing all that, you can still have supply impedance issues
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Old 13th September 2013, 02:44 AM   #18
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again, to be clear, a power conditioner no matter how expensive will not solve a lack of power problem like this?

everyone thinks its awesome that my system is so bad that it dims the lights lol, but it bothers me because I've been through too many nice amps blowing up, I want my current stuff to last. What about like installed sound at a night club, what do they run for power supply?
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Old 13th September 2013, 02:47 AM   #19
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Old 13th September 2013, 08:18 AM   #20
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Is there aluminum wiring? Sometime in the past there was a shortage of copper, and some homes were wired using aluminum, which could suffer from high resistance connections if it wasn't done properly.

Loose connections in the breaker box: my electric stove wasn't working reliably, and I eventually followed my nose to the smell of charred bakelite and found that the corresponding breakers weren't screwed tight.

If you have a 120/240V stove or dryer outlet, that can be a lower impedance power source. It's common to see one of those outlets provided for powering sound and lights in banquet halls and other venues.

There are devices for regulating AC power, but they're a bit costly:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...059+4289362909
With some luck, though, you might find such a thing lurking at a computer recycler. And some UPSes will regulate; again, try the computer recycler. Usually the only thing wrong with an old UPS is worn-out batteries.

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