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Old 4th September 2013, 09:57 AM   #21
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I seem to have lost a band in my hearing - that range of a nagging wifes voice.
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Old 4th September 2013, 10:44 AM   #22
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So far we seem to have as many posts on nurture as on nature. The nurture bit is fine - it just defines whether you are able to make the best of what you are born with. The New Scientist article on smell/taste was concerned principally with the nature aspect which defines or restricts the abilities we can achieve even with the best nurture. The sports gene is another good example of this. What interests me is whether there are any genes that determine the extent of our hearing abilities and whether there may be a 'golden ears' gene. Could be an interesting area of research. There's a good chance of a Phd or two and a few grants in this. Perhaps it is something the AES might be interested in. Could be an interesting adjunct to psychoacoustical studies.

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Old 4th September 2013, 01:13 PM   #23
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It is perhaps comforting to know that on DIYaudio knowledge of biology is just as lacking as knowledge of electronics.
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Old 4th September 2013, 01:21 PM   #24
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I seem to have lost a band in my hearing - that range of a nagging wifes voice.
Had the same dilemma once. Germiston divorce court helped me sort it out without any lasting hearing damage. Took a souvenir too.
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Old 4th September 2013, 01:45 PM   #25
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I will put it like this

many people will easily detect if a 3way speaker has a problem

and many think they can hear which driver causes it
which is where it goes wrong
most cannot hear which driver

only hard earned experience will do it here
and in the end probably also help from advanced technology

then you might say ... if almost anyone can do it by using this modern technology, are golden ears good for anything at all

well ... I don't know
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I dont think i have audiophile hearing, but...
Im able to ear even 20kHz with ease... im only 19 and i ever listen music loudly or work with powertools with no ear protection...
Most speakers Ive listened to have always too sharp highs, I never trust those crossover calculators anymore, i tune mostly them by ear till i start liking the sound...
Most people love the sound of the speakers I have built so far, they say the sound is super smooth and sweet to listen to, doesnt cause fatigue tho.

Normally what people do wrong is that they turn the freakin volume till they hear all fq clearly? Most speakers cause headache and fatigue to me.

I also see better than anyone I know.

But finding silent driver from 3-way speaker, easy.
I wish i could test myself.
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Old 4th September 2013, 08:31 PM   #27
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worst problem is all that freaking noise
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Old 4th September 2013, 08:55 PM   #28
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I seem to have lost a band in my hearing - that range of a nagging wifes voice.
That is not hearing loss. That is called selective hearing.
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Old 4th September 2013, 09:03 PM   #29
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That is not hearing loss. That is called selective hearing.
no, it just goes away by itself because its not important anymore
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Old 5th September 2013, 02:02 AM   #30
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I would be happy to entertain the idea that ability to discern defects in the medium is inversely proportional to comprehension of the music. Whether or not that's genetic, I couldn't say, but I think musical literacy is acquired young. A person who listens to the music itself will find it hard to reliably identify 0.1% distortion or a slight suckout between drivers, or whatever qualifies one for Golden Ears status.

And 'Golden Ears' may mean different things to different people. Some people are perfectly happy with speakers that roll off at 80Hz even though in objective terms that's a massive alteration of the intended sound. Or I have an audiophile friend who is extremely sensitive to differences between amplifiers but who is deaf to the effects of dynamic compression.

A Golden Ears can tell me until they're blue in the face about the greatness of some certain small speakers (e.g. KEF LS50?) demonstrated with jazz and girl-and-guitar, but my version of a great audio system is one that has some 'whoomph'. In other words they don't seem to be seeing the woods for the trees.

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