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Old 21st May 2013, 12:55 PM   #41
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Well I listened to them on my system first of all sitting on the floor between the speakers, and then at the listening position.

On the floor between the speakers all sounded a bit off on the vocals no doubt due to the fact that they are MTM's and I was quite a bit off axis vertically with the tweeters.

Listening at the listening position at first I thought that B sounded like there was less of the room there, and maybe a slight shift to the left in the image (probably because I read mooly's comment so the brain wanted to hear that). But on listening to them all over again I didn't notice it.

In the end I can't reliably tell any difference between any of the tracks

Note that the playback was on my good speakers but the DAC is the crappy on board sound card in my HTPC.

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me and a friend of mine had this idea over a few beers.
how about... liquid cables? make the cable an actual hose, fill it with salt solution, add some colorant and maybe some nice LEDs...

some other idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist's_****

because, it's more than obvious to me, audio is becoming art/designer fashion.

LOL: the forum censors the link, I trust you'll figure it out though

LE: oh darn it, http://www.teoaudio.com/liquid_cable.php
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Old 21st May 2013, 01:59 PM   #43
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I think the cheapest thing (besides dirt) that might have actual technical merit
would be a bundle of three CAT5 cables, 12x 100ohm twisted pairs in parallel.

Theoretical benefits might be an 8.3ohm characteristic impedance that hides
both the inductance and capacitance of the cable, as long as at least one end
terminates into something close to 8.3 ohms. And maybe reduced skin effect,
similar to Litz wire, not that matters at audio frequencies...

Personally, I just use zipcord, cause I can't hear any different.

Oh, nutz. Were talkin' line level... Where am I at??? What impedance is line?
I don't think you can match more than 377*2 ohms to any pair, but maybe
if you put matching transformers at both ends you could fake it with a coax.
Hose full of wet dirt inside a hose full of wet dirt... Litz dirt anyone???

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a bundle of three CAT5 cables
we're talking creativity and designer-level audio here...
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Old 21st May 2013, 03:10 PM   #45
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me and a friend of mine had this idea over a few beers.
how about... liquid cables?
The salt water is in the megabuck prize tag brand pointed some post up in this TD
nevertheless I can see your Idea, two tiny transparent hoses , no need to twist them :-) , some cork seal at the ends, a needle or something trough the cork to solder terminals, and different kinds of spirits to try on, rigorously by ear judgement..
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LE: oh darn it, Teo Audio: Liquid Cable
What no scarey pictures of KBK? Theirs at least use liquid metal.
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and different kinds of spirits to try on, rigorously by ear judgement..
I'm looking for a marketing manager, interested?

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What no scarey pictures of KBK? Theirs at least use liquid metal.
what is a KBK?
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I believe A is the original. Maybe C.

No, I'm staying with A.
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Old 21st May 2013, 03:44 PM   #49
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Thanks.

I want to provide lossless files (FLAC) for the full experience, but will cut them down to about 20 secs long for file size issues. Would a 20 second clip be enough for you guys?
For completeness, could you add this please? (you know, not that it'd personally make a difference for me...) 20 secs should be fine.

Anybody should be able to convert the FLAC to whatever else anyway.
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Anyone tried Mercury?

Steel...and Nickel...or gold wire?

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