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ashok 12th February 2013 04:54 AM

Psychokinesis believers please raise your hand
Thread started based on Dchisholm's question on another thread.

So anyone on the forum who is a strong believer ? Would be interesting to see your viewpoint even if you do not believe in it and why !

dchisholm 12th February 2013 05:01 AM

Actually, the question I asked at was:

Originally Posted by dchisholm (
Would all the people who believe in psychokinesis please raise my hand?


ashok 12th February 2013 05:05 AM

Sorry Dchisholm , I goofed that. I though you made a typo ! On a quick read I didn't catch the implication of 'raise 'my' hand'. Now I do ! :)

Anyway this question is valid too. It would be interesting to see if anyone dwells on the subject at all !

wintermute 12th February 2013 07:16 AM

I think that for anyone to strongly believe in it, they would have to be able (or believe they are able to) do it themselves :)

Since I can't do it I guess I'm not a believer ;) (though when I was younger I enjoyed reading science fiction where people could do it).


Enzo 12th February 2013 09:18 AM

I had a different experience. In growing up, I enjoyed a lot of science fiction too, but I really DIS liked any that required me to accept people with such ability. I always felt it was a cheap gimmick to give the character some ability. SO I disliked fanstasy in general, prefering "hard" scifi. In fact, having been a life long member of the scifi book club I eventually let my membership lapse because the offerings were almost entirely fantasy and magic stuff. Vampires, oh please. And what real scifi there was, was mostly hacks writing new episodes for the characters in Star Wars and Star Trek.

I have zero belief in psychokinesis, I have no reason to consider belief in it. It doesn;t happen, no one can perform it under controlled conditions. WHy should I invoke some archane, supernatural geeked up explanation for something when perfectly ordinary explanations for any of it are already sitting there.

MarcelvdG 12th February 2013 10:20 AM

I do believe in it, even though my own random number generator experiment produced a non-significant negative result in the end. If you want to know why, see Radin and Nelson, "Evidence for consciousness-related anomalies in random physical systems", Foundations of Physics vol. 19, no. 12, 1989, pp. 1499...1514. There are just too many random number experiments giving significant positive results to ignore it.

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