Bybees - best to use where?

[BobM]

I've seen people say to attach Bybees in-line with the + speaker cable. I've seen people say to put them on each + driver terminal. I've seen people say to put them in-line with a digital cable to a DAC. I've seen people say to use them in the power section of an amp, or in a front end power supply or conditioner.

Now, these little things are not inexpensive, at about $85 each. Where is the best place to use them for a first try-out without committing a lot of cash? Anyone try them and find little or no improvement, or worse, a degredation in sound?

Thanks,
Bob

[SkinnyBoy]

Originally posted by BobM
I've seen people say to attach Bybees in-line with the + speaker cable. I've seen people say to put them on each + driver terminal. I've seen people say to put them in-line with a digital cable to a DAC. I've seen people say to use them in the power section of an amp, or in a front end power supply or conditioner.

Now, these little things are not inexpensive, at about $85 each. Where is the best place to use them for a first try-out without committing a lot of cash? Anyone try them and find little or no improvement, or worse, a degredation in sound?

Thanks,
Bob

put them everywhere... they're ONLY $85 each.... I don't even know what ya talking about.. lol

[Peter Daniel]

Partsconnexion started to carry those. Here what is written in a latest newsletter:

About Bybee Technologies - And Bybee Quantum Purifiers

Jack Bybee, a theoretical physicist specializing in quantum mechanics and superconductivity, developed a series of esoteric wire and power purification technologies for the passive sonar systems of the U.S. Navy’s atomic submarine fleet. Even the battery stored DC power used in these submarines required special filtration to lower the noise floor to a level that did not compromise sonar performance. Many of the military applications of this technology are still classified; however, continuing research has led Jack Bybee to the development of solutions specific to power and audio/video circuits: the Bybee Quantum Purifiers.

The Problem

There are many kinds of noise associated with electronics. In audio reproduction, electronic noise is often manifested as lack of detail, focus and resolution. In video, this noise creates obstacles to achieving industry standards for sharpness and color definition. The removal or reduction of noise in the conducting medium is our goal.

The Noise

Bybee Quantum Purifiers address several kinds of electronic noise. Thermal noise in electronic equipment is typically created by the excitation of phonons, which are resonances in conductors caused by the movement of electrons through the quantum well. Phonons are a type of noise in themselves; they are caused by a certain class of electrons colliding with the crystal lattice of conductors (silver, copper, etc.) through which they are being transmitted. Such phonons travel, not at the speed of light, but of sound, and therefore are instantly out of phase with the signal. Shot noise, which is generated by the operation of transistors, is similar in nature to thermal or white noise. Low-frequency (1/f) noise is always present, and increases as an inverse power of the frequency.

Electrons

The Bybee solution is based on principles derived from quantum mechanics, the study of how electrons behave at the subatomic level. Quantum physicists have learned that electrons have an intrinsic angular characteristic expressed in terms of spin (either up or down), which describes their orbital behavior around the nucleus of an atom. When subjected to Bybee’s high-temperature near-superconductive material, electrons tend to join in a beneficial manner, increasing the velocity of propagation (VP) by forming what are known as Cooper’s Pairs (one spin-up electron joined with a spin-down). Coopers’ Pairs have the unique ability to tunnel through the crystal lattice of the conductor (such as a copper wire) essentially unimpeded, therefore eliminating virtually all quantum noise phenomena. To understand this effect, imagine a football game in which the player receiving the kick off could run straight down field to the goal line without being touched by any defenders.

The Bybee Quantum Purifiers

Bybee Technologies has developed devices fabricated from ceramics doped with oxides of rare-earth metals such as zirconium and neodymium. They achieve a VP of 92% of the speed of light, which is far higher than VPs of common conductors, which typically range from 50 to 70% of the speed of light.

In addition to being near-superconductive, Bybee Quantum Purifiers are electrically passive and stable in any circuit. They induce no phase shift whatsoever, and are totally non-reactive—meaning there is no reactance between capacitance and inductance.

These qualities are beneficial in numerous ways. When placed between an amplifier’s power transformer and diode bridge, for example, the Quantum Purifier eliminates undesirable impedance mismatches. In an amplifier-to-speaker connection, the absence of reactance creates an optimal signal transfer and presents an easier load to the amplifier. When transmitting digital information, the Bybee Quantum Purifier eliminates the overshoot and ringing that can occur in the leading edge of the square wave. This type of distortion is a major contributor to the harshness and glare often associated with digital sound.

Small (Electronics) and Large (higher current - Speaker)....Reg. $84.95 each - on SPECIAL for $74.95 each....$139.95/pair !

[Bill Fitzpatrick]

Actually, the knot goes in the ground lead, not the +.

[mrfeedback]

Originally posted by BobM
Now, these little things are not inexpensive, at about $85 each.
Anyone try them and find little or no improvement, or worse, a degredation in sound?

Thanks,
Bob

As Skinnyboy suggests just try some and decide for yourself (and report your findings).
I have read various comments from those who have actually tried them (and plenty from those who have not tried them) and I am reasonably confident that I have an understanding of their subjective effect.

I think you will need to experiment with varying numbers of them and their locations, and even then they may not be to your ultimate liking.

I am interested to hear some user opinions too.

Eric.

[mrfeedback]

Originally posted by Peter Daniel
Partsconnexion started to carry those. Here what is written in a latest newsletter:

Small (Electronics) and Large (higher current - Speaker)....Reg. $84.95 each - on SPECIAL for $74.95 each....$139.95/pair !

Any idea of how many they are selling ?.

Eric.

[mrfeedback]

Originally posted by Bill Fitzpatrick
Actually, the knot goes in the ground lead, not the +.

Yes Bill, thankyou for that, but you didnt state which end that should be ?.

Eric.

[Steve Eddy]

Originally posted by Peter Daniel
Partsconnexion started to carry those. Here what is written in a latest newsletter:

That's just a parroting of what's on Bybee's website.

The original description Bybee had on his web page was much funnier. This is my favorite:

The Bybee Quantum Mechanical Filter that was developed from this research is a device that creates a barrier and literally sizes, cleans, aligns and stabilizes individual electrons and throws out the bad/irregular electrons. The heavy and well damped mass around the purification devices is to absorb these discarded electrons.

Anyway, since the Bybee Quantum Purifiers are just a 0.02 ohm wirewound resistor hidden inside a ceramic tube and some heatshrink, why not just get some 0.02 ohm wirewound resistors and try those before paying $85 for a 0.02 ohm wirewound resistor hidden inside a ceramic tube and some heatshrink?

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[Pjotr]

Originally posted by mrfeedback

..........I for one would appreciate that you reduce of this kind of detracting cynicism, and that you understand that it only encourages others to likewise chime in - "......and ohwuhh do not forget to put a knot in the + of your speaker wires too" for example.

Sincerely, Eric.

Are you kidding me? Well actually there was a couple of years ago a serious debate about this in a German DIY magazine and there were people that clamed to hear a difference. That started a lengthy investigation about a knot in the + as well in the – as well in both. Also the difference between one and more knots was investigated and serious measurements taken concerning the change of inductance of the cable.

The first claims started actually as a 1 April joke. The discussion finally ended by someone that put a knot in his left ear and claimed a huge improvement in his right ear and vv. Knots in both ears was not a success.

Cheers

[BobM]

Steve - you wrote the following:
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Anyway, since the Bybee Quantum Purifiers are just a 0.02 ohm wirewound resistor hidden inside a ceramic tube and some heatshrink, why not just get some 0.02 ohm wirewound resistors and try those before paying $85 for a 0.02 ohm wirewound resistor hidden inside a ceramic tube and some heatshrink?
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Just wondering if you opened one up and verified this or if this is just your theory of what's inside? I haven't heard from anyone who has pried one open. That would be very useful information. I'm not new to self-modding equipment and would eagerly appreciate actually knowing what's in there and take the inexpensive way out.

Thanks,
Bob