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Old 30th January 2013, 05:37 PM   #11
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That's why cites exist. It's fine to quote something or redraw a diagram, with something like, "From Figure 3.5, Dewey, Cheatham, and Abromowitz, 'Electrocution for Fun and Profit,' 1st edition." Or you can get permission from the publisher (usually pretty easy with a polite email).
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Old 30th January 2013, 05:52 PM   #12
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UK copyright law has a specific allowance for private study, including for hobby use. See here. Proper attribution must take place.

I suppose there is always a problem of jurisdiction. Courts all around the world seem keen on extending their reach into other countries.

If you reproduce only a small part of a work, say where you got it from, and are clearly making no money from it and not depriving anyone else of money then you should be OK. If in doubt, don't. Don't link to copyright infringement sites, such as those which pretend to be for self-publication by budding authors but actually mainly carry bootleg copies of commercially published books.
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No, I only want to take a partial photo of a schematic of a circuit in a book to demonstrate that it isnīt my own idea that those I was saying. If you can refer to Twin Output Stage and I have a book in where there are almost 3 schematics using what Sakis says is a "new topology". See there my discussion and perhaps understand what I want to do.
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TBH, we have no wish to expend our non-existent funds defending ourselves, even if we're in the right. As the law reads today, you're basically guilty until you prove yourself innocent.
No, I get that completely and I hope that I made that clear. Sites like this must be conservative with respect to their policies, I understand and support this point of view.
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No, I only want to take a partial photo of a schematic of a circuit in a book to demonstrate that it isnīt my own idea that those I was saying. If you can refer to Twin Output Stage and I have a book in where there are almost 3 schematics using what Sakis says is a "new topology". See there my discussion and perhaps understand what I want to do.
So, remember, it's the expression, not the fact, that's covered by copyright. In other words, the schematic is the fact, but the actual figure in the book is the expression. You are could redraw a portion of the schematic and say something to the effect of "so and so uses the following topology in their book on blah blah blah." This is no different, for example, than the many outlines of speakers shown all over this board.

Again, it's a common misconception that copyright applies to the entire content of a work, what it applies to, and how it applies is a function of what kind of work that we're talking about. As an example, the de minimis principle applies to most works, e.g. that the portion used was so minimal it is not subject to protection on it's own, but the Supreme court has given a bright line rule for sound recordings. So while you can argue that the first five words of this sentence should not be subject to copyright, you cannot argue that the first five milliseconds of me recording it are not subject to protection.

In short, schematics are a graphic work and copyright protects the drawing, not the circuit. While it's a violation of copyright to copy the figure, redrawing the schematic creates a new work that is yours.

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A "copyright" is the exclusive right to copy. Copyrights grant an artist control over how his work can be exploited. A copyrighted work can be a literary work, musical work, dramatic work, pantomime, choreographic work, pictorial work, graphic work, sculptural work, motion picture, audiovisual work, sound recording, architectural work, mask works fixed in semiconductor chip products, or a computer program. A circuit schematic is a graphic work.

Facts, ideas, procedures, processes, systems, methods of operation, concepts, principles or discoveries cannot themselves be copyrighted.

...A schematic drawing can be copyrighted... the copyright then protects the drawing (schematic) from other people displaying, selling, distributing, copying or making derivatives of it without your permission. It provides no protection whatsoever for the circuit depicted therein
It's usually not necessary to redraw the entire schematic to convey your point. Simply draw the portion demonstrates what you're trying to show and use that as a discussion reference.

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