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Old 26th January 2012, 12:57 AM   #21
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But guys, I need to know all about this quantum level process so that I can apply it to my skate blades and go faster.
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Old 26th January 2012, 02:32 AM   #22
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Old 26th January 2012, 02:33 AM   #23
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Old 26th January 2012, 05:04 AM   #24
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its bogus.

silver and gold both have grain structures and the stuff about gold somehow can remove grain boundaries is just silly, gold obviously also have a crystaline boundary where atoms bond.. for purposes of conductivity electrons will jump across any atom that touches another atom, the grain boundary means only that some of the atoms are misaligned -they still touch each other which is what is required for conductivity.

you could argue that for superthin film, as in a semiconductive chip substrate that this grain boundary could lead to heat but in the case of a cable? the argument is silly.

i think its funny that they claim to eliminate grain boundaries through cryogenic treatment. sure it can affect the materials crystaline bonding, but that doesnt alter the electrion flow, it primarily affects hardness. and uit emphasises grain structures!

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Old 26th January 2012, 01:01 PM   #26
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The description reminds me of superconductors. The wire can take a certain amount of current, but above that (due to the magnetic field it generates and something-or-other), it is no longer a superconductor. It seems to me this would be a near-ideal fuse.
You are correct, nice thinking... Supers will quench for 3 reasons..temperature too high, current too high, and magnetic field too high. Typically, we plot a 3-d surface with these parameters, and staying below that surface works, exceeding it plops the super back into the normal regime..

They've been working on fault limiters for about half a decade for commercial power transmission applications.

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Old 26th January 2012, 07:05 PM   #27
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Superconductors work in a different way. The crystal imperfections are still there, but the paired electrons don't notice them.

However, can you imagine the fuss in audio when someone actually manages to make a genuine room temperature superconductor? We will all be drowning in snake oil.
I really wasn't trying to say how superconductors work as far as anything to do with crystal imperfections (apparently I shouldn't have quoted that part of your post), only that your words "no resistance" and this sentence triggered the thought:
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You need electrical resistance in a fuse (and some thermal resistance) otherwise it doesn't heat up and doesn't act as a fuse.
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You are correct, nice thinking... Supers will quench for 3 reasons..temperature too high, current too high, and magnetic field too high. Typically, we plot a 3-d surface with these parameters, and staying below that surface works, exceeding it plops the super back into the normal regime..

They've been working on fault limiters for about half a decade for commercial power transmission applications.

Fault current limiter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are quite a few papers out there, but most I found with google are ones that require payment to view, so I've not added links.


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Old 26th January 2012, 09:11 PM   #28
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The real problem is checking the snake to see if it's a virgin.
Yes Kevin that would be a big risk. Difficulty wise, it's probably about the same finding out what moth balls smell like.

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