Best sofware for making a copy of a CD.

Bas Horneman · 16th September 2003, 01:46 PM

Has anyone ever subjectively compared the sound of different cd's ripped with different software?

Exact Audio Copy seems a lot better than say Windac.

CD's that EAC reports errors for, are just ripped seemingly without any problem by Windac. So my guess is that EAC is better than WinDac.

I will report on listening test in a few weeks time..But was wondering if anyone has done some subjective/objective tests.

Cheers,
Bas

Peter Daniel · 16th September 2003, 02:04 PM

There was a thread about copying CDs: Why does CD sound better copied?

I'm using Nero and the difference is very small (quite acceptable). I still prefer my Pioneer Digital Audio burner.

UrSv · 16th September 2003, 02:09 PM

Haven't compared sound at all actually.

Ease of copy depends on what the copy protection is if any.

Nero works well for normal stuff. So does Roxio Easy CD/DVD Creator.

The neatest I know is probably CloneCd but it seems new laws prevent it from being sold today:

http://www.elby.ch/

Bas Horneman · 16th September 2003, 02:11 PM

Thanks Peter,

The search function of diyaudio should be improved methinks.. (or I should learn to use it.)

It refuses a search of cd copying software because of cd
so I gave up

should be able to search with "cd copying software"

Cheers,
Bas

UrSv · 16th September 2003, 02:12 PM

Try cd* copying software...

Peter Daniel · 16th September 2003, 02:13 PM

I used "exact copy" to search + my name. As I read most threads, I remember some expressions, which were used in original thread and are helpful in searching. You can narrow choices by specifying section (digital) and using names of members participating in discussion (if it was you or you remember others).

Bas Horneman · 16th September 2003, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Nero works well for normal stuff.

I have always used Nero, but the audio extraction used to suck (early versions of Nero..3.x.x.x. ) so I gave it up very early. Now I just use Nero for burning. And EAC for ripping the WAV tracks.

On my system I could never really hear a difference..till I tried listening on Hans Kortenbach's system. With Phy speakers... Ripped with WinDac and burned with Nero..I absolutely sucked big time...sounding like a little transistor radio..no soundstage at all..flabby bass...

Cheers,
Bas

Peter Daniel · 16th September 2003, 02:17 PM

I usually copy only the original CDs, always on a fly and with a single speed. It sounds good.

Dark Shadow · 16th September 2003, 02:44 PM

EAC have a better ripping engine. What it do when you select the right option is that he re-read multiple time the same section to be sure to have the same value to ensure no error during the ripping. It slower but you have a better chance to get a perfect wav files this way. That why I'm using only EAC to rip and even encore my CD in Flac/OGG/MP3.

Francois

Cradle22 · 16th September 2003, 02:51 PM

Hi!

Or you can use CDex to extract the tracks one by one, with paranoia mode turned on (Under Settings->CD-ROM->Ripping Method, turn on Paranoia - Full).

CDParanoia is a Linux-library for digital audio extraction, it does nearly the same as EAC, but is a bit faster (still, Full Paranoia is about 1/3 - 1/2 as fast as ripping without Paranoia turned on at all). There is no official port of this library to Win32, so the people of CDex seem to have proted the needed functions by themselve...

Since I also use CDex for making mp3 and Ogg Vorbis files, I use it for normal ripping, as well...

Bye,

Arndt

16th September 2003, 01:46 PM	#1
Bas Horneman diyAudio Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The Netherlands Blog Entries: 18	Best sofware for making a copy of a CD. Has anyone ever subjectively compared the sound of different cd's ripped with different software? Exact Audio Copy seems a lot better than say Windac. CD's that EAC reports errors for, are just ripped seemingly without any problem by Windac. So my guess is that EAC is better than WinDac. I will report on listening test in a few weeks time..But was wondering if anyone has done some subjective/objective tests. Cheers, Bas __________________ Boatanchor amps forum My "adventures" in audio

16th September 2003, 02:04 PM	#2
Peter Daniel diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada	There was a thread about copying CDs: Why does CD sound better copied? I'm using Nero and the difference is very small (quite acceptable). I still prefer my Pioneer Digital Audio burner. __________________ www.audiosector.com “Do something really well. See how much time it takes. It might be a product, a work of art, who knows? Then give it away cheaply, just because you feel that it should not cost so much, even if it took a lot of time and expensive materials to make it.” - JC

16th September 2003, 02:09 PM	#3
UrSv diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sweden	Haven't compared sound at all actually. Ease of copy depends on what the copy protection is if any. Nero works well for normal stuff. So does Roxio Easy CD/DVD Creator. The neatest I know is probably CloneCd but it seems new laws prevent it from being sold today: http://www.elby.ch/ __________________ UrSv Those who say it can't be done should not stop those who are doing it.

16th September 2003, 02:11 PM	#4
Bas Horneman diyAudio Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The Netherlands Blog Entries: 18	Thanks Peter, The search function of diyaudio should be improved methinks.. (or I should learn to use it.) It refuses a search of cd copying software because of cd so I gave up should be able to search with "cd copying software" Cheers, Bas __________________ Boatanchor amps forum My "adventures" in audio

16th September 2003, 02:12 PM	#5
UrSv diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sweden	Try cd* copying software... __________________ UrSv Those who say it can't be done should not stop those who are doing it.


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16th September 2003, 02:13 PM	#6
Peter Daniel diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada	I used "exact copy" to search + my name. As I read most threads, I remember some expressions, which were used in original thread and are helpful in searching. You can narrow choices by specifying section (digital) and using names of members participating in discussion (if it was you or you remember others). __________________ www.audiosector.com “Do something really well. See how much time it takes. It might be a product, a work of art, who knows? Then give it away cheaply, just because you feel that it should not cost so much, even if it took a lot of time and expensive materials to make it.” - JC

16th September 2003, 02:17 PM	#8
Peter Daniel diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada	I usually copy only the original CDs, always on a fly and with a single speed. It sounds good. __________________ www.audiosector.com “Do something really well. See how much time it takes. It might be a product, a work of art, who knows? Then give it away cheaply, just because you feel that it should not cost so much, even if it took a lot of time and expensive materials to make it.” - JC

16th September 2003, 02:44 PM	#9
Dark Shadow diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Blainville	EAC have a better ripping engine. What it do when you select the right option is that he re-read multiple time the same section to be sure to have the same value to ensure no error during the ripping. It slower but you have a better chance to get a perfect wav files this way. That why I'm using only EAC to rip and even encore my CD in Flac/OGG/MP3. Francois

16th September 2003, 02:51 PM	#10
Cradle22 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dortmund, Germany	Hi! Or you can use CDex to extract the tracks one by one, with paranoia mode turned on (Under Settings->CD-ROM->Ripping Method, turn on Paranoia - Full). CDParanoia is a Linux-library for digital audio extraction, it does nearly the same as EAC, but is a bit faster (still, Full Paranoia is about 1/3 - 1/2 as fast as ripping without Paranoia turned on at all). There is no official port of this library to Win32, so the people of CDex seem to have proted the needed functions by themselve... Since I also use CDex for making mp3 and Ogg Vorbis files, I use it for normal ripping, as well... Bye, Arndt __________________ ************************ A Sacrifice For Freedom

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