Mixing stereo to mono

4pyros · 27th November 2011, 12:25 PM

Ok so I made this nice sound system for our pyromusical shows and the system sounds great using normal stereo sound tracks mixed to mono on a mixing board, but when we play the show track witch is one side of a stereo trackl it dose not sound so good. The software that makes the sound track for the shows has to put timecode on one of the stereo tracks. I think it just writes over what ever was on that channel and we are loosing whatever info was there. I would like to properly mix the two stereo channels into one and feed the pyro software two mono channels.
Whats the best way to mix stereo channels into one?
Right now we use Goldwave for editing, I have not played with it much, and dont know if it can do it.
Andy

KatieandDad · 27th November 2011, 12:33 PM

Are you talking Hardware or Software

sofaspud · 02:08 PM

GoldWave has the capability. Open your audio file and select the Effect pulldown menu. Select Stereo and another menu appears to the right. There you will see Channel Mixer, "mixes or combines the left and right channels." A new window will open allowing a choice of various settings. The default is 100% left and 0% right mixed with 100% right and 0% left. That sounds like what you want, though you could mix the mono to one channel and have the other "stereo" channel to carry your timecode.
edit: let me start over...
You can convert to mono by just opening the file in GoldWave and saving as a mono file.

You can make a stereo file with one channel for the timecode by following my original instructions, but when the Channel Mixer window opens, set the left & right volume % to 50% for each. Set the volume % to 0 for left and right for the channel you wish to use for the timecode. One channel will be the audio and the other will be silent.
edit jr: You can make a dual mono file by setting each of the left and right volumes to 50%.

4pyros · 27th November 2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KatieandDad

Are you talking Hardware or Software

software

4pyros · 27th November 2011, 03:52 PM

Quote:

You can make a dual mono file by setting each of the left and right volumes to 50%.

Thats what I need but is it the best way to do it. Does Goldwave just lay one side over the other? Would I be better off using some kind of an algorithm to mix the two sides?

sofaspud · 27th November 2011, 03:58 PM

I don't have an answer for any of those questions, but have one of my own.
Why fight it?

4pyros · 27th November 2011, 05:59 PM

I am thinking that there is some magic to still getting good sound after mixing stereo channels. I just cannt seem to find the right info on the web. However I have read that mixing some tracks can cause some cancellation depending on time differances in the tracks.

4pyros · 28th November 2011, 04:37 PM

Any other thoughts?

sofaspud · 28th November 2011, 06:55 PM

Yes and no. Maybe someone else can pick up here. Truth is, I don't believe there is any magic to getting good sound. And I have no knowledge of the track-mixing cancellation you are referring to.

4pyros · 29th November 2011, 01:45 AM

OK I looked at the waveforms today.
I put one song thru the time code software and compared the one channel that had the music on it to the two original channels. The modifyed channel looked nothing like ether one of the original channels. Maybe it was sumed, hard to tell. Sent the software company an email to see if thay could tell me what the software does to the two channels when it combines them to one. more to come. Andy

27th November 2011, 12:25 PM	#1
4pyros diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2010	Mixing stereo to mono Ok so I made this nice sound system for our pyromusical shows and the system sounds great using normal stereo sound tracks mixed to mono on a mixing board, but when we play the show track witch is one side of a stereo trackl it dose not sound so good. The software that makes the sound track for the shows has to put timecode on one of the stereo tracks. I think it just writes over what ever was on that channel and we are loosing whatever info was there. I would like to properly mix the two stereo channels into one and feed the pyro software two mono channels. Whats the best way to mix stereo channels into one? Right now we use Goldwave for editing, I have not played with it much, and dont know if it can do it. Andy

27th November 2011, 01:45 PM	#3
sofaspud diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Antonio TX	GoldWave has the capability. Open your audio file and select the Effect pulldown menu. Select Stereo and another menu appears to the right. There you will see Channel Mixer, "mixes or combines the left and right channels." A new window will open allowing a choice of various settings. The default is 100% left and 0% right mixed with 100% right and 0% left. That sounds like what you want, though you could mix the mono to one channel and have the other "stereo" channel to carry your timecode. edit: let me start over... You can convert to mono by just opening the file in GoldWave and saving as a mono file. You can make a stereo file with one channel for the timecode by following my original instructions, but when the Channel Mixer window opens, set the left & right volume % to 50% for each. Set the volume % to 0 for left and right for the channel you wish to use for the timecode. One channel will be the audio and the other will be silent. edit jr: You can make a dual mono file by setting each of the left and right volumes to 50%. __________________ It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from enquiry. - Thomas Paine Last edited by sofaspud; 27th November 2011 at 02:08 PM.

27th November 2011, 03:58 PM	#6
sofaspud diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Antonio TX	I don't have an answer for any of those questions, but have one of my own. Why fight it? __________________ It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from enquiry. - Thomas Paine

28th November 2011, 06:55 PM	#9
sofaspud diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Antonio TX	Yes and no. Maybe someone else can pick up here. Truth is, I don't believe there is any magic to getting good sound. And I have no knowledge of the track-mixing cancellation you are referring to. __________________ It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from enquiry. - Thomas Paine

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27th November 2011, 12:33 PM	#2
KatieandDad diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK	Are you talking Hardware or Software

27th November 2011, 05:59 PM	#7
4pyros diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2010	I am thinking that there is some magic to still getting good sound after mixing stereo channels. I just cannt seem to find the right info on the web. However I have read that mixing some tracks can cause some cancellation depending on time differances in the tracks.

28th November 2011, 04:37 PM	#8
4pyros diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2010	Any other thoughts?

29th November 2011, 01:45 AM	#10
4pyros diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2010	OK I looked at the waveforms today. I put one song thru the time code software and compared the one channel that had the music on it to the two original channels. The modifyed channel looked nothing like ether one of the original channels. Maybe it was sumed, hard to tell. Sent the software company an email to see if thay could tell me what the software does to the two channels when it combines them to one. more to come. Andy

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