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Old 14th December 2011, 01:13 PM   #61
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The server resizes the images to fit. Your browser may resize also. Sometimes it takes a few seconds to happen, that's why you see a big image, then a small one. Unfortunately, even when resized to fit the screen, the file size can still be huge.

Schematics present a problem. If the image is clean, then even a big, detailed image can have a small file size in GIF or PNG format. But if it's a rough looking scan, the file size will jump thru the roof. Either way, it's best to attach it.
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Old 24th May 2012, 12:21 PM   #62
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RANT ON ----

Now we have the new improved forum, Why, oh, Why do members persist in posting photos using Photobucket or some other hosting site ??

Do they not realise that the attachments will disappear in time ?
Do they not care ?
Is it just laziness ?


A jpeg of almost 1Mb is BIG !!!!
and more to the point, remains for ever on the forum.

So please. if you are posting photos and you MUST use a web-hosting site, at least post a small jpeg so we can see what the heck you were on about when we visit the thread in a years time !!!


Ban PHOTOBUCKET !!



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For starters.... I believe there's a limit to how many photos can be attached to a post? Yes? Or, is it a total size limitation?

I usually attach a few pictures to show my approach, etc. For projects I'm chronicling and have many photos to share, I post a link to Photobucket. Why would that link disappear in time? Does Photobucket change the link somewhere along the line? I'm not aware of any links changing to my Photobucket site.

Are you saying hi-res photos (> 1meg) should not be attached, but only use little 80k sized images?

Last point... I don't like having to change my camera's resolution (it's a hassle) all the time just to post a couple of photos. That's why the few images I do ever upload are > 80k. As soon as I forget to change the resolution and try to upload a large file and get an error, I usually just give up and don't post anything.
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Old 24th May 2012, 12:31 PM   #63
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Redjr.
Your post is full of errors.
There's no limit to the number of pics you can attach to the Forum.
There is a limit (I don't know how big) to how many pics can be attached to a single post.
The pic size is limited as described in Manage attachments.
Remote servers habitually lose data links, or shut down, or require registration or simply don't link.

Hi res pics can be attached. Just compress them using efficient compression software to keep under the pic size limit. I use Irfanview.

I don't need to change my camera's resolution. It downloads a full resolution pic of >2MB for each pic. After cropping and compressing to a hi res pic I often find 100k to 200k is very good quality on a 1920x1080 monitor.

If I compress to lower resolution I can get good lo res pics to <50kB

Use software that is easy to work with. Complicated software is no good to me, I can never remember where all the options are buried in all the submenus.
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Old 24th May 2012, 01:19 PM   #64
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Redjr.
Your post is full of errors.
There's no limit to the number of pics you can attach to the Forum.
I never said there was.
There is a limit (I don't know how big) to how many pics can be attached to a single post.
That was my question. I believe there is a # limit, or size limitation - for a POST. I've had trouble uploading 7 or more images at a time I believe. And when it errors, I usually have to upload 1 at a time. Real hassle IMO.
The pic size is limited as described in Manage attachments.
Remote servers habitually lose data links, or shut down, or require registration or simply don't link. They loose links to all sorts of web pages too. Not just photo sites!

Hi res pics can be attached. Just compress them using efficient compression software to keep under the pic size limit. I use Irfanview. I could do that every time I snap a single photo to upload. I just find it's an extra time-consuming step.

I don't need to change my camera's resolution. It downloads a full resolution pic of >2MB for each pic. After cropping and compressing to a hi res pic I often find 100k to 200k is very good quality on a 1920x1080 monitor. Those are the steps I refuse to do for most sites. If they can't take hi-res pictures they won't likely get attached. That's precisely the reason I have gone to posting everything on Photobucket in albums. I can chronicle my DIY projects, family photos, etc. All from one place.

If I compress to lower resolution I can get good lo res pics to <50kB
See above.

Use software that is easy to work with. Complicated software is no good to me, I can never remember where all the options are buried in all the submenus.
I don't like complicated software either. That's why I use Photobucket. I'm a Pro member, so my links should always work. I haven't found a bad link in over 3 years now. Photobucket happily accepts all my hi-res photos and I've never gotten an error when uploading. If someone doesn't want to see all my photos for a project they don't have to click on the link. That's the beauty of the internet. If they are still on dial-up and cannot wait for the images to load, well....

Lastly, I've never linked to my Photobucket site as a link for an individual image. I provide a hotlink in my text to my 'public' Photobucket site and particular album reference should the user want to view all my photos related to a project. I understand the need for the occasional image here at DIY. I have found what works and what is problematic when I need to include an image. I just try and limit the # of images in posts where they add value.
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Old 24th May 2012, 02:59 PM   #65
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Old 24th May 2012, 03:36 PM   #67
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Thanks Cal. I thought it was somewhere around that number. I never embed my pictures in the body of the post anyway. I always attach them, but I've found you cannot do 6 or 7 at a time. Maybe mine were too large. I've also discovered that the Forum software does apply some level of compression too. It would be nice to know the exact raw size it allows before their compression takes over. Maybe those metrics are published somewhere.
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Old 24th May 2012, 03:47 PM   #68
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the Forum produces/creates a Thumbnail/s that lets the reader decide if he needs to see the bigger picture. That's what makes it quick and convenient for the reader/s.
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Old 15th November 2012, 05:04 AM   #69
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I think this is really about people with slow connections. It really is a non-issue for anyone with a 1M or faster connection - and my phone easily achieves that.

I'm sorry if any of you have a slow connection but that's always going to cause you problems. You can't expect others to step back in time with small, heavily compressed images because you have a slow connection.

Flickr has upgraded to free 2,048 pixel wide (~3MP) image hosting. So I upload there once and then post a link on every other site. Flickr might be around a lot longer than diyaudio and provides a one-stop source for all the photos I share, and helps other people find images they want on that site.

So, sorry, but if the image doesn't break the rules, then I'm not going to cripple the technology to suit the lowest common denominator.

This is only my opinion. I'm happy to follow the forum rules. Peace to all.

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Old 15th November 2012, 06:46 PM   #70
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It could also be about data rate charges on portable/wireless devices. Some might want to read the forum (basically text only, though webforums are still a lot more overhead than email or newsgroups) without having to load megabyte+ sized pics that aren't going to show well on a phone screen anyway. It's better viewed on a larger screen, in the office or home where there's no per-megabyte charge or limit.

As far as "rules" I don't think there's anything to prevent you from uploading to a photo site AND uploading to DIYaudio, and have both the link to the photo site and the attached image in your post. Yes, it's more trouble for the poster, but helpful for the viewer. An advantage for the poster to doing both is it gives an extra online backup.

Websites (if they're not co-locatee on both coasts, etc) CAN go down in emergency situations. Gawker and I understand several others went down during hurricane Sandy.
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