Think seeing what you're listening to doesn't influence how it sounds?

poptart · 2nd November 2010, 11:53 AM

Watch this video. Then try to tell yourself we don't hear with our eyes:

YouTube - The McGurk Effect - Horizon Is Seeing Believing?

macboy · 2nd November 2010, 12:24 PM

OH! So that's how $1000 per foot cables make the music sound better. The owner looks at the shiny new cable, and perceives a sound difference!
(You would think I'm being sarcastic, but I'm not)

kevinahcc20 · 2nd November 2010, 12:36 PM

Gives a new meaning to the concept of double-blind audio testing...close both eyes!

ArtG · 2nd November 2010, 03:45 PM

That is amazing! I wouldn't have believed it without seeing it! Well, now we know one well-kept secret that politicians regularly use on us!

jrenkin · 2nd November 2010, 03:59 PM

It is not just seeing, it is the placebo effect. Well know, used and recognized.
But then, music quality is largely in the ear of the beholder, so if you think it sounds better, is it not better? It just depends on how much you have to spend....
Of course the placebo effect is difficult to sustain....

poptart · 2nd November 2010, 07:02 PM

I don't think I understand the role of the placebo effect on this, could you explain what you mean?

wakibaki · 2nd November 2010, 07:07 PM

That should be required viewing/listening for anyone wishing to become a member here. It might cut down the arguing a bit...

Cool, or what?

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faaa, faaa, flack sheep

gray5596 · 3rd November 2010, 03:58 AM

Totally amazing! When it appears he is saying vaa, if you lower your head so you can't see him, the sound actually changes from a vaa to a baa.

This might explain why I say one thing and my wife hears something else.

jrenkin · 3rd November 2010, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poptart

I don't think I understand the role of the placebo effect on this, could you explain what you mean?

This is an excellent example of the complexity of perception and the interpolations our brain makes. Even though the sound is "baa", we see and therefore believe that it is "vaa" so that is what we hear.
If we are convinced enough to believe a pill (or something) will do a certain thing, we are quite likely to perceive it that way.
I see these as similar, not different.

Cal Weldon · 3rd November 2010, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakibaki

faaa, faaa, flack sheep

and fah humfug.

2nd November 2010, 11:53 AM	#1
poptart diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC	Think seeing what you're listening to doesn't influence how it sounds? Watch this video. Then try to tell yourself we don't hear with our eyes: YouTube - The McGurk Effect - Horizon Is Seeing Believing?

2nd November 2010, 12:36 PM	#3
kevinahcc20 diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Farmington Hills, MI USA	Gives a new meaning to the concept of double-blind audio testing...close both eyes! __________________ Kevin(ahcc20)...I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!

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2nd November 2010, 12:24 PM	#2
macboy diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada	OH! So that's how $1000 per foot cables make the music sound better. The owner looks at the shiny new cable, and perceives a sound difference! (You would think I'm being sarcastic, but I'm not)

2nd November 2010, 03:45 PM	#4
ArtG diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Central PA	That is amazing! I wouldn't have believed it without seeing it! Well, now we know one well-kept secret that politicians regularly use on us!

2nd November 2010, 03:59 PM	#5
jrenkin diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado	It is not just seeing, it is the placebo effect. Well know, used and recognized. But then, music quality is largely in the ear of the beholder, so if you think it sounds better, is it not better? It just depends on how much you have to spend.... Of course the placebo effect is difficult to sustain....

2nd November 2010, 07:02 PM	#6
poptart diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC	I don't think I understand the role of the placebo effect on this, could you explain what you mean?

2nd November 2010, 07:07 PM	#7
wakibaki Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Blog Entries: 2	That should be required viewing/listening for anyone wishing to become a member here. It might cut down the arguing a bit... Cool, or what? w faaa, faaa, flack sheep

3rd November 2010, 03:58 AM	#8
gray5596 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midwest	Totally amazing! When it appears he is saying vaa, if you lower your head so you can't see him, the sound actually changes from a vaa to a baa. This might explain why I say one thing and my wife hears something else.

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