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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sweden
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This thread is not prompted by any particular recent events,
but rather something I have been thinking about now and then. The reason is that I would suppose that people have different opinions on what is polite, appropriate etc., since we are all individuals, except Brian (warning, Monty Python reference). Here I already gave an example. Some people, like me, find it a good idea with an occasional joke or amusing ornament, as long as it doesn't take over. I am sure there are others people who think this is just off-topic and has nothing to do on the forum. If discussing with somebody on the forum that one isn't already familiar with, the ways of addressing this person differs. For instance, some people adress and refer to Nelson Pass as Mr Pass or Nelson Pass, while others (most of us, I think) adress him as Nelson. I have done so from the start, although it would be ridiculous to think of myself as his peer in questions related to audio (or wine don't mind and rather prefer this, although others may perhaps find it rude to be addressed by their first name from people they are not familiar with. The reason I do it this way is that I am used to this from the academic world where, at least in computer science, it is common at conferences etc. to adress each other with first name. It is foremost an american practice, and some europeans are not quite comfortable with it, but most of us like this informal style, where it is mostly okay for a fresh graduate student to approach a well-known authority addressing him by first name rather than Professor last name. I do think it varies with discipline, though, and the CS community is probably one of the most informal. Although, I have a tendency to write lengthy posts (already an unecessary comment if you have read this far) I do use a brief style in the sense that I do not "sign" my posts, like some do, but have a fixed sig with my user ID. Likewise, if replying to a post, quoting from it, I usually do not start by adressing the person, since this persons ID is already included at the beginning of the quotation. I am sure some people find this unpolite. A related case is email communication. We who work in computer science have been used to communicate by email for over twenty years, often having very interactive discussions this way, why we tend to keep things brief and informal to speed up the communication and since we think of it more as a spoken dialogue than a written letter communication. I have noted, however, that in email communication with people who have not been used to communicate by email until it became widely available, these people often have a tendency to be very formal, like a written letter, and I often get a feeling some of them find me very unpolite when answering in my usual brief style that I am used to. So why did I write this? Well, as I said, I am sure different individuals on the forum have different opinions on the appropriate balance between briefness and politeness, between formality and informatlity etc. Here I explained my view, or rather why I do as I do, and I would think that most forum members have a similar view. I am just as sure that some don't, so this thread is meant to ventilate different views and opinions so we understand each other better, and realize that somebody perhaps isn't as rude/formal as we thought. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: piedmont
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despite the occasional flame war, usually induced by a combination of ego and misinterpretation, the content level here is extremely high and mature. as a total ignoramus to the world of electronics (and really, audio for that matter), i've learned a whole lot by reading arguments and suggestions posted by the more learned here.
i think brevity - shortness - sometimes just happens. for example i'm at work, and any moment now i'm going to have to stop typing and get back to what i'm supposed to be doing. the vast majority of people here are very patient with posts that are (too) short, vague, full of typos (in fact i've never seen anyone harp on a poster for having typos, which in itself is remarkable), language-challenged, or just plain clueless. i think the problem of politeness has maybe less to do with brevity and more to do with attitude. there are ~6000 members registered, representing a pretty broad section of cultures, so most of us who have been here even a little while are pretty cosmopolitan with regard to communication style. the question of rudeness is almost always due to someone having a bad day, a bad week, or (dare i say it) a bad year. it's up to those of us who are not having such a bad day, to defuse the situation as best we can. but only if we want to. /andrew - doesn't put bumper stickers on his car either |
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diyAudio Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Michigan
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There are a few reasons I tend to have brief posts. Here are some of them
My boss just came around the corner My wife is in the car honking the horn Dinner’s getting cold The Sopranos just started My neck is killin’ me I can’t keep my eyes open any more I can’t think of the right words My brain is currently numb (generally the reason for the above) A short answer is called for A long answer is called for, but that’s all I know on the subject. I’m lazy
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diyAudio Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Near London. UK
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Christer raises interesting points. I'm probably in the "formal" category because I'm European, and not a computer person. More to the point, email is a person to person communication, so you can tailor your formality to suit the recipient. Similarly, if you're sloppy about your spelling or grammar, they know you, and (presumably) don't mind.
Posting on this forum is an entirely different matter. Your post is open to international scrutiny, and will undoubtedly be read by many people for whom English is their second language. If English is your native language, you owe it to these readers to write clearly, grammatically, and without typos or terms that they would find difficult. I'll probably be flamed for this, but I think it's insult to everyone else to be sloppy in the use of your own native language. Meanwhile, I have the greatest respect (and patience) for those who post on this forum in English when it is not their native language. You are excused all and any mistakes.
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Perth, Australia.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Charlotte, NC - USA
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I find proper grammar and spelling to be the most efficient communication between strangers. Long posts can be informative, but they can also ramble from point to point, making it hard to follow. But be wary of condemning those who post in computerese, as they may well have a good question or solution! But be especially aware of those who post using strange film references and older song references, as these are the people who may have a lot to offer!!!
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Brantford, ON
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I just reply to what the heck I like...cause I`m JOE DIRT®!!!...hahaha...I`m not patronising this thread or indivuals....but we all have our ways of responding and posting here...I do have problems interpreting some members but when I do I ask for another way to explain...jeez...we all talk in a mixed tongue here....I almost hear the accents...which is cool in my books
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