EC8010 said:
Yes, but I am afraid many/most even get their university degrees
without quite realizing that, though the milage may vary
between countries and school systems. Myself, I didn't quite
think about this while studying for my Masters degree. It took
me about a year or two as a PhD student to realize that one
cannot trust and should question even standard textbooks
and peer reviewed scientific papers. I'm also a bit binary in
this respect. i tend to switch between being extremely critical
and being too uncritical, depending on what it is all about, my
mood etc. Hence, I do now and then post things while in the
uncritical mode and which I later regret.
EC8010 said:
Don't know if that is generally a positive thing, but in some
cases it definitely is. I had a student once who complained
about failing an exam because it was the last one he needed
for his degree and he had already got at job under the condition
that he had the degree. He got quite mad when I told him it
wasn't my fault he applied for a job before having his degree.
Agony Aunt
All students have to apply for jobs before getting their degree. If his future employers made their job offer contingent on a pass degree, then they weren't really happy about him in the first place. Think about it, having interviewed a prospective student, you make an offer. If they are good, you make an offer slightly lower than you think they will achieve because you know that things can go wrong on exam day, and you have already made your assessment. Conversely, you might make a negative assessment, but accept that you could be wrong, so you make an offer with conditions. Viewed in this light, your employer offering a pass as a condition for employment was being quite generous, and you were perfectly within your (moral) rights.
Christer said:I had a student once who complained about failing an exam because it was the last one he needed for his degree and he had already got at job under the condition that he had the degree. He got quite mad when I told him it wasn't my fault he applied for a job before having his degree.
All students have to apply for jobs before getting their degree. If his future employers made their job offer contingent on a pass degree, then they weren't really happy about him in the first place. Think about it, having interviewed a prospective student, you make an offer. If they are good, you make an offer slightly lower than you think they will achieve because you know that things can go wrong on exam day, and you have already made your assessment. Conversely, you might make a negative assessment, but accept that you could be wrong, so you make an offer with conditions. Viewed in this light, your employer offering a pass as a condition for employment was being quite generous, and you were perfectly within your (moral) rights.
Re: Agony Aunt
I damn right was, but this guy went quite mad.
Actually in Sweden it is, or at least in times of shortage of
engineers, quite common, if not even rather a rule than an
exception, that students both get and start an employment
while still having a few (sometimes too many) exams yet
to pass. Of course, trying to read for an exam while having
a work at the same time is not always that easy, so sadly
many end up never getting their degrees, which of course
might affect their salaries and make their employments more
insecure when there is time to fire people.
EC8010 said:
I damn right was, but this guy went quite mad.
Actually in Sweden it is, or at least in times of shortage of
engineers, quite common, if not even rather a rule than an
exception, that students both get and start an employment
while still having a few (sometimes too many) exams yet
to pass. Of course, trying to read for an exam while having
a work at the same time is not always that easy, so sadly
many end up never getting their degrees, which of course
might affect their salaries and make their employments more
insecure when there is time to fire people.
Christer said:I know next to nothing about motor cycles, except that they usually make a lot of disturbing noise and think that traffic rules are just for cars.
Tricky. Little bikes (ridden by kids) make more noise (they remove the baffles from the exhaust). As kids get older, they don't feel obliged to make as much noise, but they can afford a bigger bike. Despite this, the fall in noise is 20dB/decade.
The other way of looking at bike noise is to consider your neighbour's views on your super new subwoofer that is flat to 10Hz. You think it's wonderful, and your (visiting) friends think it's wonderful, but...
PS Yes, I used to be a biker.
EC8010 said:
I live in a flat, and I do not consider subwoofer appropriate
under such conditions. It not my neighbours having problems
with my subwoofer (which I doesn't even have) but rather me
having problems with theirs, which of course are too lousy
to even reproduce the noise they feed them with.
PS I guess most motorbikers behave well, but those who
don't can be quite irritating. Didn't mean to critisize any of
you.
Barking
Well, that's barking mad. Students only learn the week before an examination (I'll admit it, that's when I actually understood stuff), and final year exams are far more stressful than any others. Conversely, a new employee's worth is almost zero in their first few months. What are the employers thinking of?
Christer said:
Well, that's barking mad. Students only learn the week before an examination (I'll admit it, that's when I actually understood stuff), and final year exams are far more stressful than any others. Conversely, a new employee's worth is almost zero in their first few months. What are the employers thinking of?
Re: I live in a flat...
Actually, the new neighbours above me are quite noisy (although
I am very sensitive to disturbing sounds) so I have been playing
around with the thought of building the cheapest possible
super-duper subwoofer, not caring about how it sounds, run
this on full blow with the ordinary speakers disconnected and
then go for a walk.
EC8010 said:
Actually, the new neighbours above me are quite noisy (although
I am very sensitive to disturbing sounds) so I have been playing
around with the thought of building the cheapest possible
super-duper subwoofer, not caring about how it sounds, run
this on full blow with the ordinary speakers disconnected and
then go for a walk.
JOE DIRT® said:
I thought it was obvious I didn't seriously mean to do implement
that method. The problem is that I am extremely sensitive to
disturbing sounds and these people are making a lot of noise
of various kinds, but nothing really extreme, so I don't quite
feel I can complain about it.
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