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Old 4th March 2010, 06:16 AM   #11
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Interesting. As much as i expected some controversy in this thread, scalar waves seem a bit extreme. The devices i've seen definetly use a coil of about 10cm diameter and probably 8-10m wire length. Seems improbably short for the wavelength concerned and i even wonderded if coupling through to the mains wiring was not a more effective antenna. My RF understanding is really sketchy but i thought similarly low frequencies were well studied in submarine communications.
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Old 4th March 2010, 12:51 PM   #12
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scalar wave - Google Search

937,000 references, and none of which that looks like it has sense in the first 10 results, even the wiki entry labelled pseudoscience had been deleted.
I see Tom Bearden there too, another free energy from the vacuum guy.
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Old 4th March 2010, 01:12 PM   #13
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I had Acoustic Revive RR-77 at my home for a few weeks. Maybe I'm deaf but I couldn't hear any difference in the sound of the system with the device on or off. One beer is much more powerful device
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Interesting input from both sides.
But that is why I thought it would be a nice experiment -so I could decide for myself and not spend extravagant sums.
However if you guys read the clinical study which is very professional by somebody very well respected in clinical circles you have scientific "proof" -double blind and all that stuff that scientists like -that these things really work. We are just nor sure why they work.
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Old 4th March 2010, 06:30 PM   #15
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Would that be the same person that wrote this?

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Guy E. Abraham, MD; Souhaila A. McReynolds; Joel S. Dill, PhD
Optimox Corporation, Torrance, California

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In order to evaluate the effect of colloidal metallic gold on cognitive functions, the revised Wechsler Intelligence scales battery of tests (WAIS-R) was administered to 5 subjects aged 15 to 45 years, before, after 4 weeks on colloidal gold at 30 mg/day and again 1 to 3 months off the gold preparation. The WAIS-R total scores (I.Q) were calculated by adding the sum of the verbal test scores to the sum of the performance scores. After 4 weeks on colloidal gold, there was a 20% increase in I.Q scores with mean + SE of 112.8 + 2.3 pre gold and 137 + 3.8, post gold (p <0.005). Both the performance and verbal test scores contributed equally to this increase in I.Q scores. The effect of the colloidal gold persisted in 3 subjects after 1 to 2 month off gold, where as in 2 subjects who took the tests 3 months after stopping the gold , I.Q scores were down to baseline levels.
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Old 5th March 2010, 08:15 AM   #16
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I would think that a pulse generator would work for this device and the 555 seems to be what the commercial crowd is using. So the question then is do you go with a standard square wave with a 50% duty cycle or do you want to narrow the duty cycle to a fairly sharp pulse? I was thinking that a reverse saw tooth wave might be interesting to try providing some decay to the (sharp) pulse. I suppose that the best way to know is to try them out and see what they feel like. A sine wave would also be interesting. Any other thoughts? The 555 would seem to be the easiest and least expensive way to go for this project. Allen's suggestion of the two winding transformer works for me, simple and easy. A level control for the output or the supply voltage would provide intensity adjustment. Since it has been kindly pointed out that this is a silly project perhaps those who agree will permit those foolish enough to proceed to do so in peace?
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Old 5th March 2010, 10:10 AM   #17
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So the question then is do you go with a standard square wave with a 50% duty cycle or do you want to narrow the duty cycle to a fairly sharp pulse?

There is also the possibility to use pin 7 on the 555 as an output if a square wave is to be avoided for some reason. Not sure what the commercial designs use.

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Allen's suggestion of the two winding transformer works for me, simple and easy.

Simple and easy indeed. And i don't understand how it works. Can you explain?
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Old 5th March 2010, 03:28 PM   #18
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And even more wire 6moons audio reviews: Healing Earth Schumann Synchronizer
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You would do well to look up the magnitude of the E and H components of the Schumann fields. Any of these devices would swamp them by orders of magnitude. As for reversing output windings producing "scalar waves" pure nonsense.

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Old 5th March 2010, 04:35 PM   #20
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Your link is appreciated but your comments are not. Have you ever tried such a configuration? I bet not.

It makes very observable physiological effect on the body, my wife can tell when I turn on my sample from anywhere in the house, and if it's on "high" she almost runs and says "Turn that thing OFF!"

When on very "low" she appreciates the effect.

And if you want to take up your disagreement with the reversed windings idea, take it up with Patrick Flanagan - he's who I got the idea from.

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