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Old 26th May 2003, 12:27 AM   #1
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Default negative ion generator schematics

title says it all--im looking for one of these-- ive heard it can be made very cheaply whereas the storebought ones are severl hundred $$$

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Old 26th May 2003, 01:41 PM   #2
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It has been years since I messed with these......but as I recall they were merely HV supplies in the 2-5 KV range. Some were sophisticated, others were crude.

Part of the trick is to have very sharp electrodes, and to keep the voltage low enough to not generate too much ozone.

Maybe more will come back to me later.

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Old 27th May 2003, 02:05 AM   #3
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Unhappy But not too low a voltage to ......

"Part of the trick is to have very sharp electrodes, and to keep the voltage low enough to not generate too much ozone."

The other part of the of the trick is to build one to put in the dash of your car, with a green LED next to the electrode, so Fred can point at said green LED in the dark and say "What's this green LED for?" and get living bejesus shocked out of him! Between that and testing the grip limit of your Pirellis during hard cornering, the first time I ever rode in your car, made quite a first impression........

You thought I had forgotten, didn't you, you sadistic Dago? That was about 20 years ago as I recall.... Why didn't I have sense enough to run as fast as I could in the opposite direction?
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Old 27th May 2003, 02:13 AM   #4
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Chris,
This might help

http://www.geocities.com/~uwezi/elec...s/ionizer.html

Please heed warnings.


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P.S. It also uses mosfets.
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Old 27th May 2003, 02:25 AM   #5
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Default Schocking!

So Fred got zapped by Jocko or was it divine intervention.........
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Old 27th May 2003, 03:43 AM   #6
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Default Re: But not too low a voltage to ......

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The other part of the of the trick is to build one to put in the dash of your car, with a green LED next to the electrode, so Fred can point at said green LED in the dark and say "What's this green LED for?" and get living bejesus shocked out of him! Between that and testing the grip limit of your Pirellis during hard cornering, the first time I ever rode in your car, made quite a first impression........
I had one of the 12V Bionaires in my car for a while... i really thot they helped make the interior of the car more pleasant. If wanted i can take a picture of the inside of the regular budget bionare... it would be nice to get one working again.

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Old 27th May 2003, 10:26 AM   #7
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Default A Shocking Thing To Do To An Attack Cat.....

I have picked up a couple of 240V operated types at flea markets for a few dollars each.
From memory they are a step-up transformer, followed by a voltage doubler or tripler.
Either way they produce high voltage at very high impedence.
Breathing moist air toward the needles causes a cool purple corona.
I have had my own fun standing in insulated shoes on a rubber mat, and touching one of the electrodes and charging myself, and then discharging to something grounded (room heater) and drawing quite a spark - 6 mm or so.
My cat (big black Panther clone) refused to have anything to do with me for a day or two after I offered an outstretched finger - a big spark lept from my digit and into the tip of his nose.
Smart cat - I was not able to do that trick to him twice in the one week.
Discharging into the tip of his tail was a guaranteed way of getting my legs savaged.

My ioniser sat on the mantle piece, and small dust particles would collect below it.
These are an effective way of dispensing with smoke, and clear the room air quite well.

Eric.

PS - I think ETI magazine published a design decades ago.
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Old 27th May 2003, 10:54 AM   #8
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Once I built one and managed to changed the color of the nearest to it wall from very light yellow to a very dark brown in a few days (I smoke too much).

I believe one should add a fan and some kind of air filter.
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Exclamation I had a slightly different encounter.

"Breathing moist air toward the needles causes a cool purple corona."

That's odd......... when I touched Jockos unit in his car, I turned bright purple and nearly stopped breating.
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"Breathing moist air toward the needles causes a cool purple corona."

That's odd......... when I touched Jockos unit in his car, I turned bright purple and nearly stopped breathing.
Mouth to Mouth from Jocko ? - No No No !.

So Phred, did you ever find a way to get back at Jocko for this despicable, cruel and thoughtless (and funny as hell) trap ?.

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