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Old 23rd December 2009, 12:22 AM   #31
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lol - directional cables again... His instructions are electro-babble. The only reasonable and supportable bit is the instruction to avoid running cables near AC feeds etc.

They may be "completely normal" behavoiurs to the audiophile believers, but then so is self-flagelation to the religiophiles in the catholic church. Psychologists would have a field day.
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Old 23rd December 2009, 12:39 AM   #32
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I use Cardas speaker wire, myself. It works OK. Recently, over the last 2 years, I have been using Cardas solder. I like it. I rarely use Bruce Bisson's wire, as I find it too soft for my taste, but I have heard the difference. I tend to use VandenHul hookup wire, when I can't get quality silver wire. Of course, I only do audio for a living and have a reputation for quality. However, that doesn't mean that I know what I am talking about, but please understand, on a level playing field, many of you would have less experience, education, or understanding than I do, on this subject.

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hiya john - I've no doubt there is a difference in BBs cables - he puts an LCR network of some sort on each cable. Still don't understand the need for a month of burn-in and interestingly, it is burn in that cannot be done at the factory so to speak. Now, I figure the only thing of any consequence NOT at the factory is the person listening - everything else can be emulated.

So, whats changing during this burn-in period? It sure as s++t isn't the cable...
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Old 23rd December 2009, 12:53 AM   #34
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Study the physics of metals, rather than engineering might give you greater insight.
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Old 23rd December 2009, 01:33 AM   #35
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So John,

In 200 words or less can you tell us what is happening during an alleged break in? The two certified metallurgists who happen to be involved with electronics I speak with look at me sideways when I mention the subject. Same with cryo-treating.
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Study the physics of metals, rather than engineering might give you greater insight.
You're right, it did.
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Old 23rd December 2009, 02:41 AM   #38
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No. But I will recommend some reading, if anyone is interested.
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Old 23rd December 2009, 03:10 AM   #39
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only if its marketing stuff John - something that explains why any company with a vested interest in making its product as good as possible under their own control would leave the last bit of the process - burning in - to the vague and variable quality control of a customer?

Its illogical from a business sense without even going into a deep discussion on possible sub-atomic changes.

Lets face it - if there was a business advantage to supplying pre-burnt in components, it would be happening. Moreover, since doing so is relatively cheap, you would assume that if there was a market leader out there doing it, the others would quickly follow.

Unless they KNEW that the effect is a psycho-acoustic one, not an electro-acoustic one.

The whole diatribe on burning in on BBs site is not dissimilar to a catechism - building an expectation of dramatic lifechanging differences on the basis of following a process set out by the Master.

I could be wrong. Show me if I am. I am open to it. I just feel that Occam points to a more basic explanation.
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If you won't study physics, then maybe you should leave the question alone, because you prefer to live in ignorance.
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