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Old 9th January 2010, 04:51 AM   #1021
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So, how are the preparations for the test going?
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Old 12th January 2010, 07:42 PM   #1024
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I was asking myself the same thing.

jleaman, are you still in? Two pairs of cable should be the first thing to do.
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Old 12th January 2010, 07:45 PM   #1025
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I read a thread once where all these things were co-existent and a bright light from a corner in the room slowly emerged....
Fortunately standard dental amalgam is well known to counteract this.
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Old 13th January 2010, 12:58 AM   #1026
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I was asking myself the same thing.

jleaman, are you still in? Two pairs of cable should be the first thing to do.
Ikoflexer,
I'm in for $10 as well. I hope we can keep momentum on this, it ought to be interesting.
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Old 13th January 2010, 01:05 AM   #1027
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He-he, have you noticed how the thread slowed down to a crawl as soon as a few of us started to walk the walk?
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Old 14th January 2010, 04:06 AM   #1028
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Old 14th January 2010, 01:01 PM   #1029
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Burning in cables? 103pages... ?
I won't claim to know all the physics although I have studied both physics and eletronics measuring.

I can't possibly decide if there's any validity to the "burning in" cables however it does sound doubtful.
Even if one can detect difference the question becomes wherther or ot the differences are audiable and in the end no-one wins.

I have heard differences in cables, once that I remember. I had bought a set of new speaker wires mostly for the looks. I said to myself "I've upgraded evertything else so Ill buy a decent set and be done with it."
I never acutally exected anything from them besides looking good.
You can imagine my surprize when I plugged them in and there was a big difference in the sound. Even my half deaf father in law wondered what I'd done?

It could have been faulty connections or whatever but the difference was there non the less.

I think we did a DBT with IC's as well and actually did find some differences but it was almost impossible to be sure.

Another time we did a serious DBT with power amps in the $1000-$1500 range. It was difficult to pinpoint any real differenes, however there were some surprizes.
The winner by almost unianimous decision was the priceiest amp but the runner up by unanimous decision was the control amp, a NAD2100 for a fraction of the cost.

So what's my point?
Blind tests can be difficult, very difficult but sometimes there are also audiable differences with different cables. It can be as simple as shoddy connections on one pair or something else entirely?

Still there is a lot to be had by serious testing and hard proof. If there are facts to be had I'd like to see them first. If there are no proof It becomes much harder to convince me there are differences.
It'll be very interesting to see the results of any upcoming tests.
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Old 25th January 2010, 04:25 PM   #1030
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Still waiting. Still have $ to contribute.

Here's another purveyor
of 'liquid upper end' and 'Teflon air tube dielectrics'.
They are however sort of reasonable for purchase (although no different in sound than a stock set from Radio Shack)

He has a no fault 30 day warranty including return shipping.

- AND he purports that proper burn-in makes an audible difference.

Maybe we ought approach this person with this thread and see if he'll play ball? After all, if he's right, it could be a huge boon to his company.
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