RF remote control of UNCOMPRESSED WAVs?

[budget minded]

none of the kenwoods at the local stereo shop would play WAVs and when i asked if they would BEFORE that from kenwood's tech support, i was told no too.

it's TRUE that nightclubbers aren't that concerned with SQ, but i am. if i had the finances, i'd run 4x 8" sealed subs for maximum bass speed and expensive Bohlender Graebener planar mids & tweeters or even SUPER EXPENSIVE ribbon tweeters for both my trailer (a showcase & advertisement for...) and my DJ rig. maximum sound quality is just a "minor detail", but it's very important to me. i DESPISE the sound of ported subs for example.

i'm familiar with FLAC (that's what i meant when i said "apple lossless") but refuse to waste time i shouldn't have to converting WAVs to yet ANOTHER format when i shouldn't have to. i just want to remix WAVs in audacity and drag them straight into my (future) USB stick directly as well as save my mixes to CD. refusing to play WAVs is just an assault on fair use that i refuse to indulge a micrometer.

if anyone's interested at looking at my system, there are a couple rough draft mockups for trailers along with pics of my bike & the gear i'll be using at my street party bikes website. the trailer, as my plans for it now are, will be ENTIRELY covered in the chrome sequined fabric without the wood trim & EL wire, but possibly with similar 9 square LED color morphing "light organs", a single larger DIY version with up to 64 lights, or even a pair of video screens showing the cool graphics that cowon's "music visualization" software (similar to what windows media player does).

i haven't done a mockup of the "light tower" i'm planning yet though. it will sit in the middle of the trailer on 4" tall cardboard cement molds with SOME sort of lighting effect with the four LED projectors pointing down & out to at 45 degree angles. i have plans for putting EL wire on the bike in a way no-one has done yet that's "top secret" lest someone use the idea before i do.

if ladies would go nuts just over the fugly saddlebag system with just a single "rave spinner" light i was using in '07, or my beach cruiser with no lights or effects other than an EL teeshirt, putting it all together in an excellent sounding package that won't get drowned out rolling by nightclubs might FINALLY create a demand for music that doesn't suck.

my whole reason for doing this is because oregon DJs are clueless about FUNKY beats and avoid them like the plague POSING as thugs. in the NY "hood" i escaped from, they'd get their hinies jacked posing like that. even REAL gangstas listen to hollaback girl & pon de replay, but not these suburban gangsta pretenders.

i TRIED getting a gig DJing at a club and couldn't get past the house (wannabe gangsta poseur) DJ who insisted on refusing to play atomic dog etc. in favor of attitudal songs like "if you're a scared mother(effer) go to church" & "i'm bossy" etc. there's just an entrenched mindset in local clubs that needs to be challenged. i've seen ladies responding to all sorts of FUN tunes that local jocks won't play like play that funky music, my sharona & disco in general. i'm making a stand against sucky DJ clones & music that has no heart.

i have a saying,
"All of the DJs in Oregon COMBINED wouldn't know FUNKY if they watched 100 NY DJs tripping over it!"

if you can't join 'em... beat 'em

[janneman]

Originally Posted by budget minded

none of the kenwoods at the local stereo shop would play WAVs and when i asked if they would BEFORE that from kenwood's tech support, i was told no too.

it's TRUE that nightclubbers aren't that concerned with SQ, but i am. if i had the finances, i'd run 4x 8" sealed subs for maximum bass speed and expensive Bohlender Graebener planar mids & tweeters or even SUPER EXPENSIVE ribbon tweeters for both my trailer (a showcase & advertisement for...) and my DJ rig. maximum sound quality is just a "minor detail", but it's very important to me. i DESPISE the sound of ported subs for example.

i'm familiar with FLAC (that's what i meant when i said "apple lossless") but refuse to waste time i shouldn't have to converting WAVs to yet ANOTHER format when i shouldn't have to. i just want to remix WAVs in audacity and drag them straight into my (future) USB stick directly as well as save my mixes to CD. refusing to play WAVs is just an assault on fair use that i refuse to indulge a micrometer.

if anyone's interested at looking at my system, there are a couple rough draft mockups for trailers along with pics of my bike & the gear i'll be using at my street party bikes website. the trailer, as my plans for it now are, will be ENTIRELY covered in the chrome sequined fabric without the wood trim & EL wire, but possibly with similar 9 square LED color morphing "light organs", a single larger DIY version with up to 64 lights, or even a pair of video screens showing the cool graphics that cowon's "music visualization" software (similar to what windows media player does).

i haven't done a mockup of the "light tower" i'm planning yet though. it will sit in the middle of the trailer on 4" tall cardboard cement molds with SOME sort of lighting effect with the four LED projectors pointing down & out to at 45 degree angles. i have plans for putting EL wire on the bike in a way no-one has done yet that's "top secret" lest someone use the idea before i do.

if ladies would go nuts just over the fugly saddlebag system with just a single "rave spinner" light i was using in '07, or my beach cruiser with no lights or effects other than an EL teeshirt, putting it all together in an excellent sounding package that won't get drowned out rolling by nightclubs might FINALLY create a demand for music that doesn't suck.

my whole reason for doing this is because oregon DJs are clueless about FUNKY beats and avoid them like the plague POSING as thugs. in the NY "hood" i escaped from, they'd get their hinies jacked posing like that. even REAL gangstas listen to hollaback girl & pon de replay, but not these suburban gangsta pretenders.

i TRIED getting a gig DJing at a club and couldn't get past the house (wannabe gangsta poseur) DJ who insisted on refusing to play atomic dog etc. in favor of attitudal songs like "if you're a scared mother(effer) go to church" & "i'm bossy" etc. there's just an entrenched mindset in local clubs that needs to be challenged. i've seen ladies responding to all sorts of FUN tunes that local jocks won't play like play that funky music, my sharona & disco in general. i'm making a stand against sucky DJ clones & music that has no heart.

i have a saying,
"All of the DJs in Oregon COMBINED wouldn't know FUNKY if they watched 100 NY DJs tripping over it!"

if you can't join 'em... beat 'em

Sounds like a good plan. Just that this infatuation with wav's has you holding up and taking all your energy from getting the thing GOING. Looks like it's the MUSIC these babes are longing for, not the encoding ;-)
I suggest you review your priorities.

jd

[budget minded]

again... the assault against fair (WAVs) use should not be tolerated any more than the acceptance of "planned obsolescence" by the computer industry. i will fight becoming a mere "money making device" for big business to the death. the only reason that gear won't do WAVs is that there's a conspiracy to wipe out fair use & copying of high quality audio. heck, the industry doesn't even like mp3.

the whole reason that things are the way they are is that people like you are so willing to "drink the kool aid" so to speak. i'm not having it.

yes, i'm the kind of person who will do things "the hard way" to stand on principle and spend $100 in legal fees to fight over a dollar.

i don't even see what your issue is. the pioneers do exactly what i want along with adding functionality to my system (remote on/off for amps). my original plan was to go with CD changers until i learned that not all PMPs are "mp3 only". an 8gb media player holds about the equivalent of a dozen CDs, but without moving parts that break, or disks that skip. 64gb is PLENTY of storage space.

the reason the world is so crappy over so many things including global warming is that people are just so willing to "go with the program" and accept whatever evil greedy corporations dictate. you're fortunate to live in a country with socialized medicine, but here, the evil corporations that care NOTHING about healthcare, only just how much money they can make off everyone have managed to convince a fair number of people that socialized medicine is bad (because it threatens THEIR profits). many people can't seem to separate taxes on the wealthy with THEIR taxes.

the system MUST be challenged even if there are too many sheep to actually defeat it.

[janneman]

Originally Posted by budget minded

again... the assault against fair (WAVs) use should not be tolerated any more than the acceptance of "planned obsolescence" by the computer industry. i will fight becoming a mere "money making device" for big business to the death. the only reason that gear won't do WAVs is that there's a conspiracy to wipe out fair use & copying of high quality audio. heck, the industry doesn't even like mp3.

the whole reason that things are the way they are is that people like you are so willing to "drink the kool aid" so to speak. i'm not having it.

yes, i'm the kind of person who will do things "the hard way" to stand on principle and spend $100 in legal fees to fight over a dollar.

i don't even see what your issue is. the pioneers do exactly what i want along with adding functionality to my system (remote on/off for amps). my original plan was to go with CD changers until i learned that not all PMPs are "mp3 only". an 8gb media player holds about the equivalent of a dozen CDs, but without moving parts that break, or disks that skip. 64gb is PLENTY of storage space.

the reason the world is so crappy over so many things including global warming is that people are just so willing to "go with the program" and accept whatever evil greedy corporations dictate. you're fortunate to live in a country with socialized medicine, but here, the evil corporations that care NOTHING about healthcare, only just how much money they can make off everyone have managed to convince a fair number of people that socialized medicine is bad (because it threatens THEIR profits). many people can't seem to separate taxes on the wealthy with THEIR taxes.

the system MUST be challenged even if there are too many sheep to actually defeat it.

Well I have no issue at all. I thought you wanted wav for the sound quality, and complained that equipment doesn't do wav. I gave an alternative that gives the same sound quality (flac). Now you seem to say it's not about the sound quality but about those bad corporations.
Maybe you should first get your disco installation going, if you want that, and THEN start your war on corporations?

But anyway, I wish you success in your endeavours. Merry Xmas and a Happy 2010!

jd

[budget minded]

yes, i know that FLAC along with a couple other formats are LOSSLESS, but converting formats is an unnecessary EXTRA step whose sole purpose seems to be making life difficult. if a CD deck will play WAVs on CDs, refusing to do so on USB sticks is merely spiteful.

if you hadn't noticed yet, i'm pretty much a total go against the flow iconoclast in general
- i ride bikes & refuse to own a car
- i won't touch mp3 or ipods
- my DJ system uses acoustic suspension & cones/domes only with no concessions to high efficiency
- and the WAV issue

surrendering and PAYING a company to make life more difficult is just a compromise i'm unwilling to make. only companies that give me EXACTLY what i want deserve my business. i won't hold it against pioneer that their marine remotes are wired only vs RF as many other companies do that too. besides, i really love that VU display. it reminds me of a smaller version of mc intosh VU meters which i'd love to show off on a "show trailer" if i ever won the lottery. i bought crappy EL panels that were supposed to be RTAs (EQ displays) but turned out to be crappy VU meters that didn't even work well posing as RTAs so the pioneer decks really agree with me on an aesthetic level besides accomodating my WAVs only goal. having to convert a 5 hour mix from WAV to FLAC or AIC etc. every night i go out wastes too much time. audacity doesn't do anything but WAV or super lofi mp3 (there's no way to do 256+ with it). simply dragging & dropping files on a USB stick is the way things should be for ALL media players etc.

like i said, i won't PAY anyone to inconvenience me. i'd rather go without. i don't need remote control THAT bad.