I need to be able to convert north NA 220-240V 60hz into 220-240V 50hz to be able to use an induction cooktop that i am getting from europe ( france )
i believe that frequency is an important tunning factor in induction heaters and have not found any story online of someone trying a 50hz appliance on 60hz circuit
so instead of frying electrics ( or just frying pans and stuff )
i would like to see how much would cost to buy or DIY
a frequency modifier that would work with 7KW load
i know that some of you here are wizkids in electrical design and circuits, wich i am not
some of the commercial products i have found on internet have too many options, and are in the 1000$+ range
wich is obviously too expensive to run only 1 cooktop on
are the parts required to make such a converter that expensive?
what would be required? what are the bases of those circuits ?
any info will help!
thank you for your time!
i believe that frequency is an important tunning factor in induction heaters and have not found any story online of someone trying a 50hz appliance on 60hz circuit
so instead of frying electrics ( or just frying pans and stuff )
i would like to see how much would cost to buy or DIY
a frequency modifier that would work with 7KW load
i know that some of you here are wizkids in electrical design and circuits, wich i am not
some of the commercial products i have found on internet have too many options, and are in the 1000$+ range
wich is obviously too expensive to run only 1 cooktop on
are the parts required to make such a converter that expensive?
what would be required? what are the bases of those circuits ?
any info will help!
thank you for your time!
ahhaha
well if i look at induction calculations,
the frequency of the electricity used is a big part of the working equation
and it seems to affect the depth of the induction effect
so up to what degree is the cooktop influenced?
it might be a good reason why all european brands aren't selling any induction euro models in north america
and why here we are paying 2 to 4 times the price for the exact same model ( same specs..same look same brand ) than in France or UK
wich is also a reason why i want to import
also i want it to match the vitro ceramic and the grill i'm getting ...
and no i don't want to use a diesel generator to run that
ahha
want to use the home electricity
well if i look at induction calculations,
the frequency of the electricity used is a big part of the working equation
and it seems to affect the depth of the induction effect
so up to what degree is the cooktop influenced?
it might be a good reason why all european brands aren't selling any induction euro models in north america
and why here we are paying 2 to 4 times the price for the exact same model ( same specs..same look same brand ) than in France or UK
wich is also a reason why i want to import
also i want it to match the vitro ceramic and the grill i'm getting ...
and no i don't want to use a diesel generator to run that
ahha
want to use the home electricity
could you please elaborate a little more on that ?
the inverter would perform better?
i've seen some "guts" of induction hobs on internet a few times ..and it doesn't look like there are many parts involved ( nothing very complex )
but i sure know that any "coil" operates on frequencies nah ?
the inverter would perform better?
i've seen some "guts" of induction hobs on internet a few times ..and it doesn't look like there are many parts involved ( nothing very complex )
but i sure know that any "coil" operates on frequencies nah ?
I'm fairly sure that these things work on tens of kHz or more, so whatever you feed it it will convert to a high frequency anyway. It will either rectify it then use switching transistors to make the high frequency or it will chop the incoming supply directly. Either way, the incoming supply frequency shouldn't matter.
Note shouldn't; I have absolutely no idea how you could tell without plugging it in.
Note shouldn't; I have absolutely no idea how you could tell without plugging it in.
this is what i wanted to buy :
EH675MD11E
BOSCH and SIEMENS specifies 50/60hz for ALL of their appliances on their France site, except for all INDUCTION HOBs ..for wich they do not say anything about frequency of incoming electricity
http://www.siemens-home.fr/nos-produits/la-cuisson/tables-de-cuisson/EH675MD11E.html
brig001 : could you please give me link
to where you have found information about 50 and 60hz for bosch inductions ?
i could cross ref some models
you verified for models for UK or ?
because models for Canada/USA are rated only 60hz
of course ...
brig001: what are you looking for ?
don't you guys already have great prices in uk ?
if it is where u are living
here it is terrible,
only 2 models of induction hobs from Bosch/siemens/thermador
60 and 72cm
both 2500$+ CAD
ridiculous
the same sells for 600$euro
let me know if you have more info
anything will help at this point!
EH675MD11E
BOSCH and SIEMENS specifies 50/60hz for ALL of their appliances on their France site, except for all INDUCTION HOBs ..for wich they do not say anything about frequency of incoming electricity
http://www.siemens-home.fr/nos-produits/la-cuisson/tables-de-cuisson/EH675MD11E.html
brig001 : could you please give me link
to where you have found information about 50 and 60hz for bosch inductions ?
i could cross ref some models
you verified for models for UK or ?
because models for Canada/USA are rated only 60hz
of course ...
brig001: what are you looking for ?
don't you guys already have great prices in uk ?
if it is where u are living
here it is terrible,
only 2 models of induction hobs from Bosch/siemens/thermador
60 and 72cm
both 2500$+ CAD
ridiculous
the same sells for 600$euro
let me know if you have more info
anything will help at this point!
ok
starting from siemens uk website
and looking in google for
some part number on induction models
and frequency key word
i have found many many websites,
mostly uk vendors
that state 50 and 60hz compatibility
example :
http://we-sell-it.co.uk/value/prodpages/siemens-appliances/EH675ME11E.html
for all siemens induction hobs
should i believe that it is correct?
some of the hobs are the same model number exactly as the one sold in france
can you call siemens uk and verify that for me ?
let me know
thanks
starting from siemens uk website
and looking in google for
some part number on induction models
and frequency key word
i have found many many websites,
mostly uk vendors
that state 50 and 60hz compatibility
example :
http://we-sell-it.co.uk/value/prodpages/siemens-appliances/EH675ME11E.html
for all siemens induction hobs
should i believe that it is correct?
some of the hobs are the same model number exactly as the one sold in france
can you call siemens uk and verify that for me ?
let me know
thanks
I have the contact us page http://www.siemens-home.co.uk/contact-us.html and will call them tomorrow for you. I cannot call today - got home too late.
For the Bosh induction hobs, I just googled: induction hob 50/60Hz
For the Bosh induction hobs, I just googled: induction hob 50/60Hz
Enzo :
have you ever thought about the fact that the maker doesn't want US in north america to buy "cheaper"
euro counterparts when they are selling the same products for 2-3 times the price here?
at first, the lady from siemens France was very direct that it woudln't work
then i told her that i was confirmed by UK rep that it would work, and they'd better get their stuff straight
( wich was a lie )
all of a sudden, she told me that it was tested on both 50 and 60hz and it would work if i had correct voltage
( 220-240v on their website )
so thanks for people helping,
it was confirmed by siemens france that it would work
so anyone in CANADA/ USA looking for induction hobs
go to UK or France websites,
and pay half price even with shipping, for better equipped and more advanced models
( 10 to 20 times more choice for each brand )
that's what i am doing neway
have you ever thought about the fact that the maker doesn't want US in north america to buy "cheaper"
euro counterparts when they are selling the same products for 2-3 times the price here?
at first, the lady from siemens France was very direct that it woudln't work
then i told her that i was confirmed by UK rep that it would work, and they'd better get their stuff straight
( wich was a lie )
all of a sudden, she told me that it was tested on both 50 and 60hz and it would work if i had correct voltage
( 220-240v on their website )
so thanks for people helping,
it was confirmed by siemens france that it would work
so anyone in CANADA/ USA looking for induction hobs
go to UK or France websites,
and pay half price even with shipping, for better equipped and more advanced models
( 10 to 20 times more choice for each brand )
that's what i am doing neway
well they sure don't want us to know that
since selling old products with old and cheap designs
at 2-4 times the price is probably VERY lucrative ...
placed the order already
saving approx 2000$USD on a 3500$ order
( 3 parts )
compared to what's available here ...
or what is not
since what is avaiable are POS with old looking stuff
and low tech garbages ..
since selling old products with old and cheap designs
at 2-4 times the price is probably VERY lucrative ...
placed the order already
saving approx 2000$USD on a 3500$ order
( 3 parts )
compared to what's available here ...
or what is not
since what is avaiable are POS with old looking stuff
and low tech garbages ..
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