Jukebox relay?

Austin Duggan · 5th April 2009, 05:42 PM

While installing sound systems in NYC, I've come across a few of what I'm calling "jukebox relays". Two line level inputs, one line level output. The relay switches between the two sources depending on whether or not the first one (usually a jukebox) is sending any signal. Well, now I need one. But I can't find this for sale anywhere. I can't even find out how to make it. Anyone know about these things, where I can get them, etc?

gain-wire · 15th April 2009, 02:37 AM

Hi! We need more info. At least, I do! Can you draw up a schematic(of the section with the relay), maybe post a picture?

Is there any writing on the relay itself?

I'm actually surprised you haven't had any comments yet. There should be alot of people here with experience reparing those. What is it a Seeburg, a Wurlitzer? What model?

Austin Duggan · 16th April 2009, 04:09 PM

Found it! http://www.happcontrols.com/amusemen...x/95078400.htm

gain-wire · 16th April 2009, 05:44 PM

Hmm, seems as though I misunderstood what you were looking for. I thought you wanted to replace a relay in an old jukebox.

You must have thought to yourself: "what the heck is he talking about?!" lol

Enzo · 17th April 2009, 03:18 AM

In commercial intallations, the jukebox earns the location money, while background music from a radio or Muzak does not. This device is connected to the jukebox so that whenever it starts to play, it takes over the PA system from the radio automatically.

You could also wire one the other way as a paging ducker. Whenever the paging mic is keyed, it takes over and mutes the jukebox. That way the announcement can be heard without competing with the juke box.

Many other appplications.

Original Burnedfingers · 19th April 2009, 10:02 AM

Bogan still makes one BG-VAR 1

University used to have one.

I'll look and see if I have a used one.

Original Burnedfingers · 19th April 2009, 10:52 AM

http://www.bogen.com/products/pdfs/s...pdfs/VAR1m.pdf

5th April 2009, 05:42 PM	#1
Austin Duggan diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2008	Jukebox relay? While installing sound systems in NYC, I've come across a few of what I'm calling "jukebox relays". Two line level inputs, one line level output. The relay switches between the two sources depending on whether or not the first one (usually a jukebox) is sending any signal. Well, now I need one. But I can't find this for sale anywhere. I can't even find out how to make it. Anyone know about these things, where I can get them, etc?

15th April 2009, 02:37 AM	#2
gain-wire diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NCR	Hi! We need more info. At least, I do! Can you draw up a schematic(of the section with the relay), maybe post a picture? Is there any writing on the relay itself? I'm actually surprised you haven't had any comments yet. There should be alot of people here with experience reparing those. What is it a Seeburg, a Wurlitzer? What model? __________________ Trans-directional-servo-logamp non-zerocrossing autogain compressing thingamajig

16th April 2009, 05:44 PM	#4
gain-wire diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NCR	Hmm, seems as though I misunderstood what you were looking for. I thought you wanted to replace a relay in an old jukebox. You must have thought to yourself: "what the heck is he talking about?!" lol __________________ Trans-directional-servo-logamp non-zerocrossing autogain compressing thingamajig

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16th April 2009, 04:09 PM	#3
Austin Duggan diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2008	Found it! http://www.happcontrols.com/amusemen...x/95078400.htm

17th April 2009, 03:18 AM	#5
Enzo diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lansing, Michigan	In commercial intallations, the jukebox earns the location money, while background music from a radio or Muzak does not. This device is connected to the jukebox so that whenever it starts to play, it takes over the PA system from the radio automatically. You could also wire one the other way as a paging ducker. Whenever the paging mic is keyed, it takes over and mutes the jukebox. That way the announcement can be heard without competing with the juke box. Many other appplications.

19th April 2009, 10:02 AM	#6
Original Burnedfingers diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2002	Bogan still makes one BG-VAR 1 University used to have one. I'll look and see if I have a used one.

19th April 2009, 10:52 AM	#7
Original Burnedfingers diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2002	http://www.bogen.com/products/pdfs/s...pdfs/VAR1m.pdf

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