Need dimensions for 1/4"phone plugs (WE303)

poobah · 7th March 2009, 09:05 PM

Hey,

Does anybody have or know where to find the dimensions for standard (if there is such a thing) 1/4" phone jacks/plugs? ...Like guitar cords and headphones etc...

I am taking about all the mechanical details for the business end of the plug.

Yes... I've googled. I believe, the original standard was WE303, which I'm guessing stands for Western Electric. They are also called TRS plugs/jacks in some circles.

Thanks,

Pano · 8th March 2009, 04:19 PM

Couldn't find any technical drawings at Switchcraft or NeutriK?

poobah · 9th March 2009, 04:45 AM

NOPE...

You would think a 102 year old standard might be easier to find...

Pano · 9th March 2009, 06:20 PM

Here you go. Should tell you all you need.

http://www.switchcraft.com/products/..._schematic.pdf

poobah · 9th March 2009, 06:40 PM

Hey thanks pan...

The only reason I ask is that I bought some patch cords... and they won't stay latched into the jack.

It turns they have the groove in the wrong place on the tip.

YES... I KNOW I should have just bought Switchcrafts or Neutriks and built my own! ...Getting lazy I guess.

Pano · 9th March 2009, 06:47 PM

You're welcome!

Were they HOSA cables? Or just some no-name stuff?

poobah · 9th March 2009, 06:55 PM

Actually they were high-end stuff from a music store. I just needed some cables and didn't have time.

They took them back without a fight... especially when I held them up against a FENDER cable. about 1mm difference. The salesman was telling me all about oxygen free copper... doesn't know ME from here!

Maybe the chinese can't find the WE303 standard either!

I'll buy a roll of BELDEN BRILLIANCE and a bag of SWITCHCRAFTS... mkae my own from now on...

Thanks,

Pano · 9th March 2009, 07:50 PM

That's the spirit!

(I'm a Canare and Mogami fan myself, but it's no better than Belden).

poobah · 9th March 2009, 07:59 PM

Well...

The salesman took back the "other" ones and replaced them with Mogami... no charge to me... but awefully expensive stuff.

They work though...

Pano · 9th March 2009, 09:50 PM

Yes, Mogami is a little $$, but good stuff. Well made, good sheild, low microphonics for guitar stuff. Very fexible.

Canare or Belden stand up better in the field, in my experience, but for home use? no worries.

(Mogami can be easier to deal with if you build your own, that's why I like it)

7th March 2009, 09:05 PM	#1
poobah diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005	Need dimensions for 1/4"phone plugs (WE303) Hey, Does anybody have or know where to find the dimensions for standard (if there is such a thing) 1/4" phone jacks/plugs? ...Like guitar cords and headphones etc... I am taking about all the mechanical details for the business end of the plug. Yes... I've googled. I believe, the original standard was WE303, which I'm guessing stands for Western Electric. They are also called TRS plugs/jacks in some circles. Thanks,

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8th March 2009, 04:19 PM	#2
Pano diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina Blog Entries: 4	Couldn't find any technical drawings at Switchcraft or NeutriK?

9th March 2009, 04:45 AM	#3
poobah diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005	NOPE... You would think a 102 year old standard might be easier to find...

9th March 2009, 06:20 PM	#4
Pano diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina Blog Entries: 4	Here you go. Should tell you all you need. http://www.switchcraft.com/products/..._schematic.pdf

9th March 2009, 06:40 PM	#5
poobah diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005	Hey thanks pan... The only reason I ask is that I bought some patch cords... and they won't stay latched into the jack. It turns they have the groove in the wrong place on the tip. YES... I KNOW I should have just bought Switchcrafts or Neutriks and built my own! ...Getting lazy I guess.

9th March 2009, 06:47 PM	#6
Pano diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina Blog Entries: 4	You're welcome! Were they HOSA cables? Or just some no-name stuff?

9th March 2009, 06:55 PM	#7
poobah diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005	Actually they were high-end stuff from a music store. I just needed some cables and didn't have time. They took them back without a fight... especially when I held them up against a FENDER cable. about 1mm difference. The salesman was telling me all about oxygen free copper... doesn't know ME from here! Maybe the chinese can't find the WE303 standard either! I'll buy a roll of BELDEN BRILLIANCE and a bag of SWITCHCRAFTS... mkae my own from now on... Thanks,

9th March 2009, 07:50 PM	#8
Pano diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina Blog Entries: 4	That's the spirit! (I'm a Canare and Mogami fan myself, but it's no better than Belden).

9th March 2009, 07:59 PM	#9
poobah diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005	Well... The salesman took back the "other" ones and replaced them with Mogami... no charge to me... but awefully expensive stuff. They work though...

9th March 2009, 09:50 PM	#10
Pano diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina Blog Entries: 4	Yes, Mogami is a little $$, but good stuff. Well made, good sheild, low microphonics for guitar stuff. Very fexible. Canare or Belden stand up better in the field, in my experience, but for home use? no worries. (Mogami can be easier to deal with if you build your own, that's why I like it)

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