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Old 21st November 2008, 07:15 AM   #11
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Jan is correct here, if you throw out there it is likely to be copied.

All of us are guilty of copying elements of someone else's work in our designs.
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I repeat. Copyright protection of DIY designs is proposed NOT against DIYers!!! If it is designated for DIYers only, than exceptionally by DIYers it may be used. Itís aimed against unauthorized commercial use, against business. Likewise it against claiming the originality of stolen DIY designs by any third person.

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...and given that you've created nothing, what's your percentage?

Please, read a disclaimer.

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Copyrights have absolutely nothing to do with protecting circuit innovations. Copyrighting a schematic means that someone may not take that that drawing and reproduce it. The law actually protects the right of someone to reverse engineer a product, generate a schematic, and start cloning it.

I donít think mixing commercial interests and DIY is a great idea.
I think you are wrong. If it will fall under conditions of novelty, originality, have an invention level and may be used with some decent results it may claim for protection. But the problem is itís not accessible for DIYers.
If you read it carefully you will see that Iím not mixing commercial interests and DIY. I want to divide it.
 
Old 21st November 2008, 08:06 AM   #12
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i agree with several others, like Scott W.

i have no problem to see this simple choice we have:

1. publish, but be not surprised if your circuit is used by anyone

2. keep your idea, circuit to yourself and share only with 'trusted'

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the advantage with 1.
is that your knowledge becomes a part of general human knowledge
like all those great persons before in human history

the drawback with 2.
can be that you take your good idea with you in your grave, after death
--- no one knows, may be tomorrow!
and so your good thinking was of no use for mankind and humanity


Lineup thinks no many stonedead & down in the ground are smiling very much
- because of some protected intellectual property or all those patents they have paid for
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Old 21st November 2008, 08:28 AM   #13
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Please read the previous post.

In addition, DIY inventor must have the ability to protect his design, provided by law. Just in case once some kind of business starts mass production of his work or claims it as its own!
 
Old 21st November 2008, 08:45 AM   #14
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ok, AndriyOL
I have not this ability to protect.
I am sorry for this?
Not much.
I find joy in even people care to discuss and remark to my ideas & circuits.
It adds a value to my day

Even more happy I am to see some try them out.
As one private copy or massproduced and sold 1.000 of them.
I take it as sign my creativity is still working.
And that others have confirmed this.

Lineup - thinks there are 2 funda mentally ways to look upon life:
- some things we do together, until our day will come
- some thing each do for his own best, until his day comes
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Old 21st November 2008, 09:00 AM   #15
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Yep. You are correct. But than you should write a remark that your design may be used or modified by everyone without permission or do nothing. It is your right. Nobody can prohibit you of doing this.

P.S. It's seems like you are defending interests of devious manufacturers!
 
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Please, read a disclaimer.
My point exactly. Anybody can write a disclaimer.

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There's no such thing as a free lunch.
This is the VIRTUAL world. You need to shift up a gear in your thinking.

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Old 21st November 2008, 11:27 AM   #17
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But than you should write a remark that your design may be used or modified by everyone without permission or do nothing.
I can write any remark I want, including, "Hot babes reading this must submit to my carnal desires." Just as enforceable.

Has anyone made any real money in audio by copying someone else's schematics or ideas off an internet forum? Nope. Why the fuss?

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There is no such thing except in the perfervid imaginations of people on internet forums.
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Old 21st November 2008, 11:55 AM   #18
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Anybody who thinks they can patent their circuit designs most likely hasn't done enough searching and due diligence. There are a few original ideas, but not many. Most people do not have the resources to do this- a patent search plus a web search is a start, but way insufficient. Patents are expensive "poker chips" between companies and few individuals have ever made money off a patent. In fact, most patents never make a dime for anybody but lawyers. Copyrights OTOH, don't provide any useful protection for circuit designs. BTW, I'm pretty sure there is *not* a "personal use" clause in the patent system. If a patent owner wanted to come after you for building one copy, they could do it. Obviously it's not worth their time, but a patent is nothing more than the right to defend. If you can't afford a patent, IMO the best thing is to publish on the web so nobody else can patent the gadget and *prevent you* from producing it!
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