musiclistener said:
I have schematic of such a device.
It was originally made to scare some animals away, that eat you cables in your car.
High frequency generators will not disturb people.
Because we have a very limited hearing range = 'the audio band'.
This is also why 'listening tests' with 'golden ears' can be so very invalid.
Now, cats & dogs and bats & horses has got a different extended audiable spectrum from man.
From the human spieces.
This is why you should use your domestic cat to listen to your amplifier
and tell you if there was any improvement.
You could easily build such a high frequency Generator.
That takes the input = a dog barking
and puts out a PUNISHMENT SOUND response.
It will, in best caes, hurt that stupid dogs ears very much
Lineup
I've once used a 555timer,with a pot to vary the frequency from 15-30khz,or so.. squarewave output feeding a HOT salvaged from an old TV set,a Motorola piezo horn,and a 9V battery.
Very simple,and it worked well.
Of course with the 9V battery the output wasn't huge,and it wouldn't run for terribly long,but it did annoy animals,and humans.
Very simple,and it worked well.
Of course with the 9V battery the output wasn't huge,and it wouldn't run for terribly long,but it did annoy animals,and humans.
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your input. I confess I know nothing about audio, schematics or electronics. I registered on this website to get some help. I am seeing different methods and parts for building this device. So I am already a little confused. Can I make this myself or should I pay someone to do this? Maybe I can learn to read schematics. Is there any one person on this forum that has the most experience with these devices?
Thanks for your input. I confess I know nothing about audio, schematics or electronics. I registered on this website to get some help. I am seeing different methods and parts for building this device. So I am already a little confused. Can I make this myself or should I pay someone to do this? Maybe I can learn to read schematics. Is there any one person on this forum that has the most experience with these devices?
The most difficult to arrange, as I see it,
is to electronically detect the dog barking.
Because I suppose you wont have it scaring that animal all the time.
What is your idea of operation?
Should it be manually operated?
= when you are at home and hear that doggy
you press a button until he gets into coma or throw up.
is to electronically detect the dog barking.
Because I suppose you wont have it scaring that animal all the time.
What is your idea of operation?
Should it be manually operated?
= when you are at home and hear that doggy
you press a button until he gets into coma or throw up
.Tone generator
There are FREE software tone generators. Just hook your computer up. You can set the frequency.
http://www.nch.com.au/tonegen/index.html
Or better yet :
http://www.gooddeals.com/lp-bark-2.aspx?gclid=CMa6n_y54JQCFQmdnAodWgGsSQ
There are FREE software tone generators. Just hook your computer up. You can set the frequency.
http://www.nch.com.au/tonegen/index.html
Or better yet :
http://www.gooddeals.com/lp-bark-2.aspx?gclid=CMa6n_y54JQCFQmdnAodWgGsSQ
Yeah, I have considered using frequencies/tone generators from the Internet. My computer is not near the window, but I suppose I could use a long cord trailing to the speakers. The speakers are pretty powerful.
There is one possible drawback to this method. Our backyards are separated by 6 to 7 foot cinder block walls. Can't the walls obstruct the sound waves? I hear about people mounting there device higher up.
In answer to the other question, I want the device to be manually operated. Would 100 decibels be sufficient? I am told I can make this for about $70.
Last night, I downloaded a recording of lions roaring. maybe this will help in the short term.
Don't really understand why that guy made a joke about beating the dog. Harming the dog isn't my style. The dog doesn't know any better.
There is one possible drawback to this method. Our backyards are separated by 6 to 7 foot cinder block walls. Can't the walls obstruct the sound waves? I hear about people mounting there device higher up.
In answer to the other question, I want the device to be manually operated. Would 100 decibels be sufficient? I am told I can make this for about $70.
Last night, I downloaded a recording of lions roaring. maybe this will help in the short term.
Don't really understand why that guy made a joke about beating the dog. Harming the dog isn't my style. The dog doesn't know any better.
Dog
Dogs hearing is extremely acute. A simple piezo horn tweeter driven with the right frequency should do the trick...you could leave the speaker in the "ON" position with a push button switch between the leads....hit the button and noise is produced. You may have to move the speaker to get BEST results, but how difficult is that ? YOu might look for a tweeter with extended range...like 30 K or 40 K Hz.
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=280-062
http://www.etronics.com/p-23212-pyl...0373637333135313&svbname=403&bname=GoogleBase
MOst likely your current speakers will not produce this high frequency, but you can always test it first on the dog
Dogs hearing is extremely acute. A simple piezo horn tweeter driven with the right frequency should do the trick...you could leave the speaker in the "ON" position with a push button switch between the leads....hit the button and noise is produced. You may have to move the speaker to get BEST results, but how difficult is that ? YOu might look for a tweeter with extended range...like 30 K or 40 K Hz.
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=280-062
http://www.etronics.com/p-23212-pyl...0373637333135313&svbname=403&bname=GoogleBase
MOst likely your current speakers will not produce this high frequency, but you can always test it first on the dog
theAnonymous1 said:
Very Right You Are.
You know domesticated animals, I see.
We train them using Positive & Negative signals.
This way they learn .. quickly
I have raised and trained HORSES (8 horses of my own in my life).
Same thing !!!!!! We give positive feedback when they do right ( CARROTS )
And negative feedback when do wrong ( RAISE YOUR VOICE and COMMAND )
Now, there are some sorts of dogs, that genetically are programmed to BARK.
To give human, master, one signal.
These dogs should bark.
Because this is one job they do. For us.
We must understand different dogs and horses.
They are better souls than any human.
They do what comes natural to them.
And they do not START WARS.
And unnecessary killings of others living here.
They are peaceful creations of nature But what can we say about the human race.
I feel ashamed over many things we do.
To those children & animals & nature & God's good & beautiful creation.
Can we be proud and hold our head very high ????
No, we should bend down in sorry.
And repent and start doing good. And better.
As soon as possible!!!Lineup - Sweden July 2008.
What would Wylie Coyote do? wwwcd
While I have a miniature schnauzer (which barks incessantly), at least she is behaved when guarding the family sofa. OTOH, the neighbors have a canis which my sons drive into a paroxysm of rage by putting the barbecue detritus on our side of the fence.
For those of you who are dog afficiando's -- here is book one of the Odyssey written from the perspective of a pooch:
Epic Walks—Part Two:
The Argo
The following tale has never been written down before, but
it is most familiar to you since it hs been passed down through
barking for centuries. This is the story of Argos, loyal dog
to the man of many turns, Odysseus. While Odysseus traipsed
around the sea for twenty philandering years, Argos stayed
on land and had an adventure of his own. Here is the First
Book of the Classic Greek epic poem, The Argo.
ARGO, I
Bark, 0 Howler-
Of the sturdy hound,
The walker, of great distance and true speed
Following abandonment by his Master.
Bark
Of all the lands he marked, the bitches humped
The anguish in his breast and deep panting
While battling to retrieve and to lead his pack
Who would not heed his growls-
Yapping mutts-put down by their own appetites
When they scarfed down the Siren's juicy steak
And that T-bone did undo their mortal collar
Of these times,
Bark, Eternal Howler,
And wail the story for our perked ears.
Now, with Master Odysseus at sea—
Gentle Penelope commands Loyal Argos—
She balks at suitor after suitor, ordering her hound
And his pack to bite the ankles and hides
Of the bearded men who trouble her.
Though he remains obedient, Argos stares,
Puppy-eyed, at his lady. A quest of many strides
He begs for—-
With tail wagging.
Young Telemachus, boy-man of Master Odysseus,
Observes his furry, four-legged brother—
The thirst to chase bonds the disparate species,
And with a mighty pull of his bow,
The Human Child releases a soaring toy into sky.
As hazy fingers of dawn bathe the airborne plaything,
The gods gather upon Mt. Canis—
Thundering Rover bellows in the Great Kennel:
"Canines! They yelp for playtime but for their fun,
They do not repay with ample poop!
This Argos allows his Masters to pick up his dookie,
Leaving none on the ground as a sacrifice to his gods!
For his affront, let him never find the toy
His Young Telemachus has thrown!"
Wise goddess Muffy pierces Rover with her Greyhound eyes:
"True, 0 noble Rover, whose snarl can bring about
Piddle in even the largest mortal Mastiff—
But remember our Argos is a most good dog.
He, who has buried the largest bone,
He, who has treed the foulest squirrel,
He, who has honored his gods with strong breeding.
Test him if you must, but an endless chase
Is too severe."
Rover, Father of Dogs, listened to Grey-Furred Muffy,
His rage cooled by her delicate barks.
"So it will be. Let the woods grow dense
Around the fallen toy—
But Loyal Argos
Shall not have his beloved game of chase lead
Him forever away from home."
While I have a miniature schnauzer (which barks incessantly), at least she is behaved when guarding the family sofa. OTOH, the neighbors have a canis which my sons drive into a paroxysm of rage by putting the barbecue detritus on our side of the fence.
For those of you who are dog afficiando's -- here is book one of the Odyssey written from the perspective of a pooch:
Epic Walks—Part Two:
The Argo
The following tale has never been written down before, but
it is most familiar to you since it hs been passed down through
barking for centuries. This is the story of Argos, loyal dog
to the man of many turns, Odysseus. While Odysseus traipsed
around the sea for twenty philandering years, Argos stayed
on land and had an adventure of his own. Here is the First
Book of the Classic Greek epic poem, The Argo.
ARGO, I
Bark, 0 Howler-
Of the sturdy hound,
The walker, of great distance and true speed
Following abandonment by his Master.
Bark
Of all the lands he marked, the bitches humped
The anguish in his breast and deep panting
While battling to retrieve and to lead his pack
Who would not heed his growls-
Yapping mutts-put down by their own appetites
When they scarfed down the Siren's juicy steak
And that T-bone did undo their mortal collar
Of these times,
Bark, Eternal Howler,
And wail the story for our perked ears.
Now, with Master Odysseus at sea—
Gentle Penelope commands Loyal Argos—
She balks at suitor after suitor, ordering her hound
And his pack to bite the ankles and hides
Of the bearded men who trouble her.
Though he remains obedient, Argos stares,
Puppy-eyed, at his lady. A quest of many strides
He begs for—-
With tail wagging.
Young Telemachus, boy-man of Master Odysseus,
Observes his furry, four-legged brother—
The thirst to chase bonds the disparate species,
And with a mighty pull of his bow,
The Human Child releases a soaring toy into sky.
As hazy fingers of dawn bathe the airborne plaything,
The gods gather upon Mt. Canis—
Thundering Rover bellows in the Great Kennel:
"Canines! They yelp for playtime but for their fun,
They do not repay with ample poop!
This Argos allows his Masters to pick up his dookie,
Leaving none on the ground as a sacrifice to his gods!
For his affront, let him never find the toy
His Young Telemachus has thrown!"
Wise goddess Muffy pierces Rover with her Greyhound eyes:
"True, 0 noble Rover, whose snarl can bring about
Piddle in even the largest mortal Mastiff—
But remember our Argos is a most good dog.
He, who has buried the largest bone,
He, who has treed the foulest squirrel,
He, who has honored his gods with strong breeding.
Test him if you must, but an endless chase
Is too severe."
Rover, Father of Dogs, listened to Grey-Furred Muffy,
His rage cooled by her delicate barks.
"So it will be. Let the woods grow dense
Around the fallen toy—
But Loyal Argos
Shall not have his beloved game of chase lead
Him forever away from home."
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