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Is there a recommended tutorial for Oscilloscope use in audio for a noob?
Couldn't find anything with a search! |
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Quite a vast subject really, is it just the basics you want or more advanced measurement techniques. There used to be a few books on this subject years ago. Have you tried searching for any out of curiosity ?
Regards Karl |
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Actually, I did a search on interweb & found some basic guides - is there any special considerations for audio use?
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Not really
Regards Karl |
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Thanks Karl,
That's the sort of info I was looking for - stuff you won't find in a textbook but hints/tips that come from experience. If I want to measure the ripple on a SMPS power supply how do I do it? |
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You would ask that would'nt you
Regards Karl |
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actually, with a dual trace scope there is a way to make measurements on the line side. put the scope in "ADD" mode and set channel 2 to "INVERT". channel 2 goes to the line side common and channel 1 to whatever you are trying to measure. of course you have to null the scope (connect both probes to line common and adjust for no deflection) before you make a measurement. you are reading the differnce between the two probes (hence the name "DIFFERENTIAL" mode). this cancels out the line voltage sine waves on which your line side DC voltages "float". this is much safer than working "hot chassis" with the scope. make sure you use a scope with at least 1kv max input if you're working with 240v line voltages.
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Thanks Karl,
Sure might as well start with the difficult stuff first - many thanks for your directions & help - I will stick with just the secondary side of the SMPS - it's actually a SMPS of a Panasonic Digital amplifier SA-XR57 with a variable voltage which determines the volume. Because it's an non feedback digital equibit technology the PSRR is low or non-existent & PS quality is more of an issue than with other amps - hence my interest in testing this (& possibly improving it) Thanks unclejed, But as a oscilloscope noob I think I'll stay safe & stick with secondary testing for the moment! |
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Good luck with the measurements, it certainly sounds an intriguing circuit
Regards Karl |
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Unclejed, I have never ever heard of this being done, it sounds very workable in theory though. Are you able to get meaningful readings, checking the drive to a chopper transistor for example with all the noise and hash flying around. You are correct in saying a 1000v input rating would be required, most scopes seem to be in the 400 to 600 vdc range, even most divider probes are only 400vdc or so rated. It is non the less a very interesting proposal with the right kit.
Very interesting indeed, Karl |
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