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Old 25th October 2007, 01:47 AM   #1
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Default What about radiation?

I have removed my dect telephone because i suspected all my audio equipment suffered from the radiation of the all penetrating 2 Ghz modulated on a 100Hz frequency. I discovered some other facts with that: my tinnitus/earnoise allmost dissapeared, had a decreased number of migraine's, felt "better".

That made me think, and i bought a radiation meter, allso because i talked about it with a collegue and she told that her brother makes and sells those rad meters. That guy also knows the radiation from dect, GSM, wifi/bluetooth, GSM transmitting antenna's, and the newer UMTS antenna's is not that healthy as our government here say. (first the dutch government say it's harmless, but a week later they declared it is not advised to place an UMTS antenna near kids school's. Economical fact: they sold the UMTS-frequencies here for 2.7 billion euro's, so won't say anymore that the radiation in bad for health now)

Well, now i have the meter i can trace any radiation source, and i discovered that my neighbour dect is right standing right to my inner separating wall (i live in a double house under 1 roof) and i know now the advised minimum levels of radiation is exceeded. (for best function of our human body, to relax from radiation-stress in your own home)

I must say since my new neighbour is moved in near me, and stuffed his house full of wifi, dect telephones, and 4 or more GSM phones (they have 3 youngsters) i am suffering more from strange health complaints. Also my wife is has certain healt-complaints, and my youngest doughter of 6 has a mental development-disorder and has medication for that. Btw, she sleepes right above the neighbour's dect. Within a week or two i will install a digital photo printout with metalised foil behind it of 2.3 X 1.5 meters to shield some radiation, i am forced to do that because after several kind request's my neighbour still doesn want to remove his dect. Cost's me about 300 euro's.

Maybe these items health & domestic radiation are not related to eachother, but i still think the radiation isn't helping it to the good. I think that all radiation sources from nowadays will be multiplexed on eachother, and we here in this world are creating a big & not recognised problem, maybe just like asbestos.

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Old 25th October 2007, 02:44 AM   #2
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I've been sleeping with a 250mw wireless router radiating 5ft from my head for the past 3 years. I feel fine.
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Old 25th October 2007, 03:36 AM   #3
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Default Re: What about radiation?

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I have removed my dect telephone because i suspected all my audio equipment suffered from the radiation of the all penetrating 2 Ghz modulated on a 100Hz frequency. I discovered some other facts with that: my tinnitus/earnoise allmost dissapeared, had a decreased number of migraine's, felt "better"....snip...

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Old 25th October 2007, 04:22 AM   #4
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Default Might make sense...

From what I've read any frequency between 2 and 3 Ghz is definitely not good for you in large doses or long term. Your Microwave oven runs around 2.6 Ghz, so long term exposure to these frequencies may explain your health problems, even at low wattages (under 1 watt).
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Old 25th October 2007, 04:41 AM   #5
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As a radio transmission technician and a health and safety representative I have looked at this in great detail.

It is most important you specify the type of radiation and understand the affect of each type.

My conclusions: They haven't proven radio energy is safe. The levels encountered in modern cities are many times higher than natural background levels so we don't know what the long term effects are. It is sensible to minimise exposure.

They also haven't proven those pain releiving magnetic bracelets or underblankets are safe. The health benefits are not proven either. Have a look at some advertising material from early last century, people were smearing radium cream on their faces for supposed health benefits!

I'd be more concerned about the low frequency electromagnetic radiation from the transformer in the clock radio next to your bed or high tension power cables up in the air.

The radiation pattern of mobile phone towers is directed out in a fan with a slight downtilt, usually about 5 degrees. It is very directional. There will be less radiation right under the tower than there will be in an office block 200m away. I'd prefer the mobile phone tower to be in the middle of my child's school than 100 m away in the carpark of a business.

On the other hand there are areas in Iraq and Iran where the NATURAL background levels of ionising radiation are many times greater than the town of Chernobyl. People have lived there for thousands of years with no ill effects, the cancer rate is not elevated there.
Airline stewardesses and pilots get the equivalent radiation dose of 1100 chest X-rays per year.
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Old 25th October 2007, 06:10 AM   #6
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Do yourself a favour and compare Russian safety levels for these kind of things with those seen in the west...

The Ruskies seem to show a bit more respect of the potential hazzards it would seem.

Mentioning Chernobyl, watched a documentary the other day... it would seem the wildlife in the area is flourishing again.
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Old 25th October 2007, 06:33 AM   #7
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Default shielding EMF

I have removed my dect telephone because i suspected all my audio equipment suffered from the radiation of the all penetrating 2 Ghz modulated on a 100Hz frequency. I discovered some other facts with that: my tinnitus/earnoise allmost dissapeared, had a decreased number of migraine's, felt "better

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I have been studying the electromagnetic field or waves shielding and absorbing problems more than 10 years , As my experience:

the radiation from dect, wifi/bluetooth, GSM mobile phone, (0.9G~1.8~1.9GHz), microwave oven (2.45GHz) etc. all are higher than 1GHz microwave frequency band, you must use power density meter ( w/cm) or field strength meter (V/m) to measure it ! 10 to 40w/cm seems harmful to health.

You can use : metal foil/metal mesh/ stainless fiber fabric barrier curtain shielding the electromagnetic field or waves ! less than 0.2mm thickness (like paper) can shield most of the energy.

Most of the microwave radiating energy cannot penetrate matal foil as thick as 0.2mm, even mesh will function as good as foil.

The path of microwave radiating will go strightly from source to you, so any metal sheet/mesh put betwween it , will possible
reflect it back to source direction .

But you also need to check Magnetic flux density by GAUSS meter,
some kind of disorder head ache and healthy problems may be caused by this low frequency low energy but long period exposing to such circumstances.

It is difficult to shield or absorb magnetic field, Keep away from it!

Hope can help you to shield Electromagnetic field and waves!

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Old 25th October 2007, 10:39 AM   #8
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The ISM Band around 2.5GHZ is set aside for unlicensed use because it's useless from all of the microwave oven leakage.
Radio transmitters designed for use in the band don't have many design limitations apart from limiting their power to 100mW.
Of course having many of these nearby all attempting to communicate in a high density urban environment is going to have significant energy content.

Many people get headaches from mobile phones. It could be the radiation or it could be the way they hold their head when they speak on the phone, It's so hard to prove anything.

Minimise exposure to a point you feel comfortable with. There's no proof that it's harmless. Start the microwave and don't watch it like a television, walk away. Don't spend hours on a mobile phone.

Around here safe exposure levels are based on the microwave oven heating effect only. For trained people it's a temperature rise of 0.1 degrees celsius. For the general public it's a lot less, about 2% of that I think. I can't remember exactly. The standard has been in a state of flux for about 5 years. The interesting thing is our standard specificly excludes "portable equipment". If the typical mobile phone on the limits of it's range was "fixed equipment" you would not be allowed to touch it. Don't let your children speak on a mobile phone or long range portable phone for extended periods.
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Old 25th October 2007, 12:47 PM   #9
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You know, I keep my cell phone in my back pocket and I have noticed my butt is getting bigger.

Coincidence, butt cancer, or too much pie?
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There is not now, nor ever will be, proof that anything is "harmless". That's just not the way it works. If enough studies show some connection, then we can say something about risk. In the meantime, there's little downside in minimizing exposure to RF fields. I'm a complete skeptic on harmful effects from magnetic fields, at least the ones we're commonly exposed to, but if you want to try and minimize exposure to those as well, which is probably harder, it certainly won't hurt anything. It is important to use good descriptions, as ionizing radiation is very different from e-field radiation and h-field radiation. Actually I tend not to use the term radiation at all, unless talking about the former.
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