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Old 25th August 2007, 01:16 PM   #21
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the Local Area Connection says "network cable unplugged".
-indicating a connection issue. If your going right to the modem you'll prob need a crossover cable as OZmike said.

OH, MOST OF THE MODEMS I'VE RUN INTO CANNOT USE USB AND ETHERNET SIMULTANEOUSLY. ... I'm not shouting. I'm just trying to exemplify that you should have a modem with a working ethernet port so you can use a router...
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Old 25th August 2007, 01:27 PM   #22
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It's booted back up,
the wireless was disabled and the LAN was unplugged.
Clicked on wireless and it re-enabled itself.

If the DSL thingy (it's labelled "BT Voyager 205 ADSL Router") that I'm calling a router, describes itself as a two computer link to broadband and it also talks about a gaming link then I would expect it to take both these PCs to the ISP.

But I still don't know if the storm took out the ethernet link, either in the PC or in the DSL.
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Well, that is a bit of a mislabeling. It is not a true router, but a DSL modem with some router-like features. The specs for the device say that you CAN use the ethernet and USB at the same time. You cannot do this with most cable modems that have both jacks.

Andrew, when there is an Ethernet cable plugged in from the laptop to the DSL modem, does is still say "network connection unplugged"?
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Old 25th August 2007, 01:34 PM   #24
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Hi,
is post19 telling me that I can avoid the direct connection to the router and go from laptop to desktop to router to ISP?

This would get rid of the problem of a router fault.

But if the fault is in the desktop, I would need an alternative cable entry. USB? But will my win98 operating system on the desktop allow usb?
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Old 25th August 2007, 01:36 PM   #25
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Well, that is a bit of a mislabeling. It is not a true router, but a DSL modem with some router-like features. The specs for the device say that you CAN use the ethernet and USB at the same time. You cannot do this with most cable modems that have both jacks.

Andrew, when there is an Ethernet cable plugged in from the laptop to the DSL modem, does is still say "network connection unplugged"?
yes, "Network cable unplugged"


Did you go and look up the spec sheet?
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Old 25th August 2007, 01:40 PM   #26
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Andrew, you can do what is called "ICS", Internet Connection Sharing.

Laptop ethernet ---> PC ethernet (via crossover cable) ---> PC USB ---> DSL Modem/Router.

I don't recommend this route for someone not familiar with this stuff, not to mention I don't think win98 supports it.

EDIT: If it still says network cable unplugged when it is in fact plugged in then either the cable or the modem/router is faulty.
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Old 25th August 2007, 01:40 PM   #27
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what if I connect the laptop to the desktop via the ethernet RJ45 cable?

I've just noticed that the ethernet cable has only two pins connected at each RJ45 plug.

I'll try to find another RJ45 cable.

I intend changing the desktop over to XP but only after I get the laptop working with all the software I need on it.

edit,
they're not RJ45. The spare RJ45 have 6pins.
These dsl plugs are 4pin with two of them blank.
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Old 25th August 2007, 01:46 PM   #28
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An ethernet cable with only 2 pins? Well there's a problem.

http://www.voyager.bt.com/wired_rout...oduct_info.htm

http://www.voyager.bt.com/wired_rout...ifications.pdf
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what if I connect the laptop to the desktop via the ethernet RJ45 cable?

I've just noticed that the ethernet cable has only two pins connected at each RJ45 plug.
That is a modem cable, NOT ethernet.

An thernet cable has all 8 wires connected.
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Andrew, even if you find a good ethernet cable you will still want both PC's on ethernet and not one USB, one ethernet. To do this you will need at least an ethernet switch.

I have such a switch you can have for free; I'll even pay to ship it to you. It needs a power supply, but you are the king of supplies, so I'm sure that's no hurdle.

http://www.xpcgear.com/dldss5plus.html
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