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Old 31st December 2015, 11:24 AM   #1
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Default New solder station bought, some questions

Hi,
As my almost ten year old Velleman digital solder station died on me yesterday, I ordered a new one.
This is the one I had but mine was bought from a Swedish webshop
http://prubuy.hk/velleman-vtssc40nu-...e6OMUiSem6e0s/
The tips for it was cheap, very cheap..but very poor quality no matter how careful you are with them.

This time I thought I'd go for a bit higher quality(without completely emptying the wallet), I landed on the Weller WHS40D as that is the only brand I know of amongst the ones I found and also the only one in that pricerange/quality that I could get delivered next week.

Now, I've noticed that there are limited options when it comes to tips for the solder iron.
I did order a 0.4mm longlife tip with the solderstation as the site I got it from didn't say what comes with the solder station.

My question(s):
Does any other tips fit, and work well with this solder station?
Does other solder irons(pens) work with the station?
I mainly solder on perf board or PCB's using either solderpaste (sn45pb35bi20) or (Sn63 Pb37) or regular solder (Sn 60% Pb 38% Cu 2%).
I know the WHS40D is 40W compared to the Vellemans 48W, but figured that as in audio equipment, there's "watts" then there's watts.

Any of you guys that have experience with the Weller WHS40D that would like to share your thoughts on it, that would be grately appreciated
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Old 31st December 2015, 11:39 AM   #2
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Any of you guys that have experience with the Weller WHS40D that would like to share your thoughts on it, that would be greatly appreciated
Cut to the chase - look for Hakko and Hakko compatible soldering irons.
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Old 31st December 2015, 11:57 AM   #3
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.................This time I thought I'd go for a bit higher quality(without completely emptying the wallet), I landed on the Weller WHS40D as that is the only brand I know of amongst the ones I found and also the only one in that pricerange/quality that I could get delivered next week......................
Does any other tips fit, and work well with this solder station?.............
I bought a very cheap digital readout temp controlled soldering iron.
All three temperature sensors broke down after a fairly short life. One tip wore through it's iron coating. The replacement sensor (I bought 4) is still working well after about a year. They are all very different and not interchangable. I was lucky to find a sensor that was interchanable. The tips are also different, I now have about a dozen.
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................I mainly solder on perf board or PCB's using either solderpaste (sn45pb35bi20) or (Sn63 Pb37) or regular solder (Sn 60% Pb 38% Cu 2%)............
I have never used a Bi solder, no comment. The Eutectic 63/37 should be good for most jobs.
I don't recognise the 60/38/2 solder. I don't think it is Eutectic, it's not on my list.
Better to find a triple Eutectic 62/37/1 silver, or 62/36/2 copper
I only know of one quad Eutectic containing both silver and copper and it's expensive. Those that use it always say it's good, until very recently when the chemistry was changed, unknown to the exclusive retailer!!!! Cardas quality control seems not to exist !!!!
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Cut to the chase - look for Hakko and Hakko compatible soldering irons.
They fit the Weller WHS40D?
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They fit the Weller WHS40D?
Probably not, but the Hakko tips are about as close to a universal standard as you'll find.

In many people's opinion, Weller has been eclipsed by Hakko.
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Probably not, but the Hakko tips are about as close to a universal standard as you'll find.

In many people's opinion, Weller has been eclipsed by Hakko.
Ok, I'll look at those tips.
I've ordered the Weller station, and that was as high in price as I could go, about 90-100USD I guess it would be.
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I bought a very cheap digital readout temp controlled soldering iron.
All three temperature sensors broke down after a fairly short life. One tip wore through it's iron coating. The replacement sensor (I bought 4) is still working well after about a year. They are all very different and not interchangable. I was lucky to find a sensor that was interchanable. The tips are also different, I now have about a dozen.I have never used a Bi solder, no comment. The Eutectic 63/37 should be good for most jobs.
I don't recognise the 60/38/2 solder. I don't think it is Eutectic, it's not on my list.
Better to find a triple Eutectic 62/37/1 silver, or 62/36/2 copper
I only know of one quad Eutectic containing both silver and copper and it's expensive. Those that use it always say it's good, until very recently when the chemistry was changed, unknown to the exclusive retailer!!!! Cardas quality control seems not to exist !!!!
The Bi solder is less "thick" I can use finer tips on the syringe I use to apply it.
The other solder paste flows a bit faster it feels like.
The 2% Cu solder I use is made by Fixpoint and is the best (affordable) solder I've used so får.
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Old 31st December 2015, 01:12 PM   #8
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Weller is changing lately, and I'm not really liking the changes. I use a WES50 and a WES51 at my bench. The WES51 station is now produced by the APEX tool group instead of Weller. I'm not sure if this was a company name change or sale, but my old tips used to last for years. Now I've had a couple die in a week.
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The Bi solder is less "thick" I can use finer tips on the syringe I use to apply it.
The other solder paste flows a bit faster it feels like.
The 2% Cu solder I use is made by Fixpoint and is the best (affordable) solder I've used so får.
paste?
sounds to me you need a hot air re-work soldering tool.
investigate 2in1 SMD Rework Soldering Station 852D+.
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paste?
sounds to me you need a hot air re-work soldering tool.
investigate 2in1 SMD Rework Soldering Station 852D+.
It is on my future wish list.
But for now I manage atleast TSSOP28 with a fine tip.
Solder paste really is like my "third" arm, I can get the solder there while holding the iron in one hand and the part with ESD safe tweezers in the other hand.
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