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Old 22nd January 2014, 02:27 PM   #21
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This is just not a rational statement.

You know that a lot of modern Flukes are Extech re-badges from China?
While I agree about the rationality of your statement I doubt the Extech part. I've been wrong before but considering Extech doesn't make their own meters they have OEM'd mostly by CEM but a few by Brymen I doubt they make for fluke. Its possible they are involved but not likely and EVEN less so as the ODM. The major Chinese/Taiwanese OEM/ODM are Mastech, CEM, Victor, Uni-Trend Group (Uni-T), Brymen and Appa. Uni-T is known to make at least a few of the fluke meters for Chinese domestic use like the Fluke 17 and Fluke 17b, so I would look at them first.

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I found this comparison, I'll let you more qualified folks look it over to see what you think. Extech EX530 Details vs Fluke 87V Details in Digital Multimeters (DMM)
First, RUN from Extech Ex series, I've seen many of them and inside they are bad. The Ex430 was the one I saw a resistor dangling with a thin filament of solder connecting it to the pad. Don't confuse the Ex line with the MM560/570 which are Beymen made (much to my pleasant surprise).

As for that comparison it's deeply flawed in that it takes no account for reliability, tempature drift, durability, precision, quality, etc. It just says ok the meter has this many counts and this cost this much. It's like saying well both the Ferrari and this Yugo have four wheels, they both go sixty miles an hour and with the Yugo you get four doors so clearly the Yugo is a better deal. Reality just doesn't work that way. Now that's not to say the Ferrari doesn't have competition, just not from Yugo. Flukes competition is Agilent (now Keysight), Brymen, Yokagawa, Gossen plus a few others.

Please excuse any typos or missing words. I'm sending this from my phone.

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Old 22nd January 2014, 04:55 PM   #22
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If you haven't decided yet, let me float this - a fluke 8060a. This is an older model (the one with buttons on the side), but was recommend to me. I ended up buying one, well under $100 iirc.
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Old 22nd January 2014, 09:34 PM   #23
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So does my $20 DMM
lol...you can NEVER compare a CRAPPY meter to a Fluke. open a $20 multimeter and then open a Fluke.....if you do not see a difference...You know crap.
Check out this video. this is an old Fluke 27fm (not military version) the military version is true RMS.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKuvmoW0AZQ

and check the protection they have: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUhnGp5vh60
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Old 22nd January 2014, 09:50 PM   #24
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For those fellas that think Fluke multimeters are the same as those cheap crap and you are just paying just for the name....YOU ARE ALL WRONG! check some "tear-down" of this guy David jones and He is not a moron. Check this video explaining the BASIC of crappy multimeters. EEVblog #6 - Part 2 of 2 - Why cheap multimeters suck - YouTube

More crappy meters....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoeUgMFLyAw
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Old 22nd January 2014, 10:00 PM   #25
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and for all those people thinking that it is way too much money to buy a fluke multimeter....well it is not true! you can always get used ones under $100 that will be way better than those X brands that you buy at local stores.
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Agreed. I worked for 10 years in the instrumentation labs business and you always get what you paid for. Compare a commercial one as Fluke with 20-30 years reliability in all kind of abuse, drop to concrete floor, overload, etc with a cheap current model from other Cie and you'll see which one will survive and stay accurate. An old used Fluke is a Fluke. Will last a lifetime if care in a workshop for sure. I have two, a 87 and a higher accuracy bench model.

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If you haven't decided yet, let me float this - a fluke 8060a. This is an older model (the one with buttons on the side), but was recommend to me. I ended up buying one, well under $100 iirc.
and a PITA to desolder that switch network when they go wonky
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Old 23rd January 2014, 03:23 AM   #28
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This is just not a rational statement.

You know that a lot of modern Flukes are Extech re-badges from China?
Oh really
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A quick look inside and out. One thing to note, it appears to have built in water resistance. Also the rubber case feels more rough abd rugged than fluke cases. Some will like this feel others won't.
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Old 28th January 2014, 04:50 PM   #30
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A quick look inside and out. One thing to note, it appears to have built in water resistance. Also the rubber case feels more rough abd rugged than fluke cases. Some will like this feel others won't.
LOL...Fluke will always be imitated...but NEVER duplicated! Now open a Fluke 87v...if you do not see a difference in quality....you must be blind
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