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Old 28th July 2011, 03:33 PM   #1
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Question Soldering iron for beginner ?

A basic question, I like the idea of changing the parts on my old Amp and pre amp, and Iím fascinated by how different parts will affect the sound. I already have replacements as a gift off my brother for my birthday so this is simply experimental. (for now J )
So a Simple question, what type of soldering iron do I need that will be able to de solder and then easily re solder the new parts. Any recommendations, Iím from the UK , And flux, solder and other tools you think I will need for my first venture into electronics?
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Old 29th July 2011, 09:56 AM   #2
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I think i will buy this kit from CPC

PRO'S KIT|1PK-302NC|PERSONAL COMPUTER TOOL KIT | CPC

it seems to have most of the tools mentioned in the excellent

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Just got to pick the solder etc now
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Old 29th July 2011, 10:10 AM   #3
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I think a 25 Watt soldering iron is a bit too much. You'll overheat the tiny components quickly. I'm still using my 15 Watt Weller that I got some 28 years ago...

Something like this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Weller-2015-...1930553&sr=1-9
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Old 29th July 2011, 10:18 AM   #4
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That's looks like a decent set of small tools. And the Antex is a good soldering iron. For solder, I would suggest 0.036" 60/40 rosin core solder if you can get it. Desoldering braid will help in removing parts from boards.
You'll also need a good pair of diagonal cutters. CPC has these also. And a multimeter if you don't have one already. Even a cheapie is better than none at all.
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Old 29th July 2011, 10:27 AM   #5
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Hi , thanks for the replys .. theres also this kit

DURATOOL|D00029|ELECTRONICS TOOL KIT | CPC

I'm very lucky only living 6 miles from cpc

but I might buy seperate tools , I dont know yet ..

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Old 29th July 2011, 10:35 AM   #6
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Yeah, that one looks good, too. That looks kinda like Weller blue on the soldering iron. And this one includes side cutters (similar to diagonal cutters) and a DMM.
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but I might buy seperate tools , I dont know yet ..
My own rule is that when buying a set of tools, I may sacrifice a little quality for the discount price. When buying separate tools, I like to stick with better quality stuff like Xcelite or Klein. Those may be US brands, but I just wanted to pass that along for consideration.
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This stuff works for me, both professionally and at home, I have to solder on a daily basis anything from tiny 0102 resistors to big components with lots of thermal mass like can tuners.

Solder: Multicore Sn62 Tin/Silver/Lead, diameter: 0.46mm
Desolder brais: Loctite no-clean wick, 1.5mm x 1.5m NC-AA
Soldering Iron: JBC advanced AD2200 with various cartridges
Flux remover: Cramolin Flux-Frei (be carefull with this stuff, it will eat away most plastics!)

If you want to use desoldering braid I would suggest at least 80watts @ 420C. This is what I use at work to desolder SMD devices. Especially ground planes can be a bitch to desolder..

Also try to get some solder which contains lead (yeah I know ROHS prohibits it), this will make it far easier to solder anything, especially if you are a beginner.

The set looks nice, but only a 25W soldering iron can be very limiting, it all depends on what types of components you want to solder!
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Yeah, that one looks good, too. That looks kinda like Weller blue on the soldering iron. And this one includes side cutters (similar to diagonal cutters) and a DMM.

My own rule is that when buying a set of tools, I may sacrifice a little quality for the discount price. When buying separate tools, I like to stick with better quality stuff like Xcelite or Klein. Those may be US brands, but I just wanted to pass that along for consideration.
I think I 'm the same, I do build computers when required for a friends shop, but I have never needed to do any soldering etc, but my screwdrivers etc are Stanley and over 20 years old and still in perfect condition. But they were not cheap when I bought them. I may go for a bit more expensive soldering iron because as reading through threads I have come to the conclustion that a cheaper one could cause frustration to a beginner and of course I can always put it on ebay.

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This stuff works for me, both professionally and at home, I have to solder on a daily basis anything from tiny 0102 resistors to big components with lots of thermal mass like can tuners.

Solder: Multicore Sn62 Tin/Silver/Lead, diameter: 0.46mm!
Desolder brais: Loctite no-clean wick, 1.5mm x 1.5m NC-AA
Soldering Iron: JBC advanced AD2200 with various cartridges
Flux remover: Cramolin Flux-Frei (be carefull with this stuff, it will eat away most plastics!)

If you want to use desoldering braid I would suggest at least 80watts @ 420C. This is what I use at work to desolder SMD devices. Especially ground planes can be a bitch to desolder..

Also try to get some solder which contains lead (yeah I know ROHS prohibits it), this will make it far easier to solder anything, especially if you are a beginner.

The set looks nice, but only a 25W soldering iron can be very limiting, it all depends on what types of components you want to solder!
I have found some low melt solder MULTICORE (SOLDER)|QLMP22|SOLDER, LMP 22SWG 250G | CPC

"Solder: Multicore Sn62 Tin/Silver/Lead, diameter: 0.46mm!"

But I cant work out its thickness, I assume its got something todo with
22SWG 250G ? As
As in the article it recommends thin solder for the beginner?
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The iron in that 2nd tool set is described: 20W/130W Soldering iron. That ought to handle just about anything an audio diyer will encounter, SMD to speaker lugs. I've never seen such a thing. 130W is usually a gun, not a pencil.
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I may go for a bit more expensive soldering iron because as reading through threads I have come to the conclustion that a cheaper one could cause frustration to a beginner and of course I can always put it on ebay.
I can't really argue with that. But there's a saying about a poor carpenter that blames his hammer. The iron I'm using most now is a custom diy tip, but the iron itself is a $6 unit from WalMart.
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The iron in that 2nd tool set is described: 20W/130W Soldering iron. That ought to handle just about anything an audio diyer will encounter, SMD to speaker lugs. I've never seen such a thing. 130W is usually a gun, not a pencil.

I can't really argue with that. But there's a saying about a poor carpenter that blames his hammer. The iron I'm using most now is a custom diy tip, but the iron itself is a $6 unit from WalMart.
excellent advice.. I will go with the 2nd tool kit , I dont think theres anything in that that I wont use at some point .. and it seems to be a good starting point.. Ill grab a

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I'll grad a stand

DURATOOL|ZD-10A/87-0101|SOLDERING IRON STAND | CPC&

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And some solder

MULTICORE (SOLDER)|QLMP22|SOLDER, LMP 22SWG 250G | CPC

And Ill let you know how I got on with my test board.
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