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Old 13th May 2009, 09:06 PM   #1
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Does anybody know what CAD program is used to generate the schematics (and possibly the PCB layouts) for the circuits published by Elektor magazine?

One of the members here (Veteran) has schematics on his website that closely resemble the Elektor ones, but I was never able to get from him any answers on the subject.

I thank you in advance for any clues.
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Old 7th July 2009, 09:50 PM   #2
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Hi !
I seem to recall having read in an old issue (around 95) that they were using Tango PCB.

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Old 5th January 2010, 10:09 PM   #3
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I seem to recall having read in an old issue (around 95) that they were using Tango PCB.

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I recall a letter to the editor asking a similar question: why do the component symbols have a unique "elektor" look, and the reply was that they have a custom library of symbols.
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I recall a letter to the editor asking a similar question: why do the component symbols have a unique "elektor" look, and the reply was that they have a custom library of symbols.
Thanks - I guess I will have to create my own then...
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Upon analysis of some of the newer (2007 onwards) PDF issues of their magazine, and based on an article they wrote in a 2009 issue, here are the facts:

1. PCB layouts used to be done in some other CAD package, they never used Tango AFAIK

2. These days they use Altium Designer. They said so. The schematic produced in Altium is however post-processed by an artist, I forget his name but it is mentioned in the magazine in one of the 2009 issues. They said so themselves, and they said the library is not for sale.

3. By ripping the PDF, I have found that the symbols are nothing more than PostScript drawing objects. Many of my tools (Adobe Illustrator, Corel Draw) recognize them as symbols and by this means it becomes trivial to snarf a copy of all the symbols in a schematic. With some effort it is not difficult to build your own drawing library and then use that in Corel Draw. Indeed I have found that the symbols indeed have pin entities i.e. short lines. Any good drawing software allows you to "snap" to those pins and draw lines.

I also determined that in most cases, the natural scale of the items are usually 1:1 on very small schematics, but its compressed down on larger schematics, obviously to fit the page.

4. Most, if not all CAD packages support the US style symbols, for some obscure reason.

5. The Elektor symbols are based on IEC617. If you Google images for IEC617 you will see Rotring and others produced stencils for this, and the symbols there are REMARKABLY Elektor-like. Obviously, for a Dutch magazine, produced in the heart of Europe, this is most likely why. Most other magazines hail from the UK or the US where the Imperial system and standards still exist.

6. In South Africa we briefly had a magazine in 1987-1988. I managed to find old copies of it at book dealers recently, and there again, it has a striking resemblence to Elektor, by virtue of IEC617
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I remember that the generation of Elektor PCBs was detailed in one issue.
Which one is out of my memory.
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Old 31st May 2016, 08:06 PM   #8
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At any rate, with a bit of patience you can do it.
Using Corel Draw X5, I am able to make a library, and place the parts, just as they "claim" to do it internally at Elektor HQ. Again, I would not be surprised if they recently moved the whole lot from Quark/whatever-was-used-in-the-80's to Adobe Illustrator.

As I have mentioned these are IEC symbols, so I feel I can use them:

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And here is me, placing them, in a blank sheet in Corel Draw:

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Thanks Tamago!
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I found this : ELEKTOR FORUMS • View topic - pcb design software
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Elektor have indicated they use Altium Designer for PCB layouts. They have a special department that modifies them for the magazine.
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