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Old 21st April 2010, 12:00 PM  
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Default His Master's Noise: A Thoroughly Modern Tube Phono Preamp

After more than 25 years of faithful service, it seemed that it might be time to redo my phono system. After all, I like to think that I've picked up a few tricks in the intervening years... The old system consisted of a VPI HW17-II, a Linn Ittok LVII tonearm, and a Troika cartridge. The Troika was...

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2nd June 2017
mrdave45
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Hi peafarmer. I think the cap you are refering to in the psu is across AC mains. I see why that needs to be X2 rated.

C5 on the output board is decoupling the 160v dc rail across the last tube stage. But potentially may see more until stabilized hence 400v rating as raw B+ will be around 350v.

C4 is the output blocking capacitor of the audio. Doesnt an X2 rated cap seem a bit industrial in this position?
Arent film caps self healing as well, with a tendency to fail open?
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2nd June 2017
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I admit up front, this is an apples and oranges comment, but at least the design was a phono pre by SY in both cases.

In the EO MM pre, SY uses caps in the same way, decoupling the rail and output blocking cap. In the EO BOM and schematic higher than rail voltages are specified for the caps (but only 125 V B+ rail). However, no mention of X caps. I checked because I know I used an audio cap for the output blocking caps and I think I did for the rail cap as well.

I will leave it to you to infer what you want for that, but I'm glad I used audio caps for blocking because I tried a couple and came away with a preference.

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2nd June 2017
mrdave45
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Hmm. Neither article specified x rated caps. Just was printed on the pcb I received. I can definitely see why you would not want them to fail. It would be ugly. Maybe just covering himself?
The impasse has been fine with a wima. Although that's rated at 630v but it does have a 350v rail. It's only 0.1uf.
Does anyone know how you decide what value to use for decoupling the rails across tubes?
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mrdave45
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Built my HT regs.

Was wondering if there was a way of testing them without resorting to putting the ht supply on them.

Did continuity check to make sure that input to ground isnt shorted and also ht in to reg out.

Hooked up to bench supply. The outputs match each other, eg, 14v in produces 13.42v at the output on the 160v regs and 13.40v on the 260v regs. both sets match each other perfectly.

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First time using perf board. Slightly time consuming but easier to figure out than strip board. Also suspect better for high voltage.

Is this the right idea?
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mrdave45
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In case anyone thinks ive gone mad, the films have + - marked on them as i was trying the osciloscope noise test when holding them to try and ascertain which way they're coiled. Probably stacked, but hey ho. The transient when i grabbed them did seem slower one way than the other regardless of how theyre actually made.

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