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Old 14th August 2002, 01:22 AM   #1
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Here is a basic faq I typed up. If you have any suggestions or parts to add on please do.





DIY LCD PROJECTOR FAQ


General Questions
Q: Isn't this the 100" TV thing I tried and the quality was horrible?

A: No, this is a completely concept the most common type people build use an overhead projector and a LCD panel.

Q: Why haven't the projector companies done this if it is so cheap?

A: They used to make these panels for several thousand dollars but people wanted portability so they started to make compact projection units. The ones that retail today for several thousand.



Q: How much is this going to cost to build?

A: It all depends on how much you want to spend but for a majority of people $200 is about the limit.



Q: How good is the quality on these projectors??

A: Depending on how you build it and parts used it can be as good as a rear projection TV or better.



Q: Right... are there any pictures of projections??

A: Here is one page that shows some ok projections it is hard to take pictures of projections.
http://www.justexportcontrols.co.uk/.../projector.htm

Q: So I can do HDTV??

A: No, panels that can do HDTV are still several thousand dollars.



Q: Can I hook my computer up to this?

A: Yes, many panels have computer input. Awesome for gaming.



Q: How dark does the room have to be?

A: The darker the room the better the image although with higher lumen projectors mild lighting can be used.



Q: How big of a picture can I project?

A: There are many variables here but lots of people project at 80" or more.




Q: What can I project my image onto?

A: Walls,bed sheets are some of the common screens but a real screen is quite a bit better.




Q: Can you give me the plans and tell me what to do so I can have a big screen projector?

A: Unfortunately it's not that simple peoples building level,funds,vicinity on deals and parts all vary from person to person. There is no master plan. But there are plenty of people on the forums that will help you out the best they can.

Q: Can I make my own DLP,laser,CRT,D-ila or other technology projector?

A: These types of projectors require much more work,knowledge,money,and time. We are simply making LCD projectors because they are the simplest to make.






LCD PANELS





Q: What is a projection panel?

A: A projection panel is much like a normal LCD panel that you see in a laptop with small changes that allow it to be projected. Such as the cables being moved out of the way and fans. This allows it to be put on top of an overhead and projected.

Q: Where can I get these projection panels?

A: The most common and most expensive place is on ebay. Others include normal auctions,universities or offices that are getting rid of them.

Q: How much does a projection panel cost?

A: You can get a decent panel for $100. More features will cost you more money. The best panels generally go for around $300.

Q: What makes one projection panel different from the next?

A: There are several factors involved:

Resolution: This is how many actual pixels are on the panel measured the same way a standard computer monitor is. Higher resolution will yield a better looking image while costing more. Typical resolutions are : 640*480,800*600,1024*768. There are some panels that offer resolutions higher then the "native resolution" this is sometimes called scaling or compression it is not as good as a panel that normally runs at that resolution.

Colors : Colors are the amount of color a panel can display. Generally measured in millions of colors or bits. More colors create a much better looking image. More colors will cost more.

Contrast ratio: This is a big one. This is how much range there is between a pixel on the panel being completely on or completely off. The higher the contrast ratio the better the image especially for white scenes and dark scenes.

Inputs: This is what kind of sources the panel takes. Most panels take VGA input while some have VGA and other connectors such as composite video and S-video. Composite and S-video are used for hooking a DVD player or other video source directly to the panel without the need for a computer.

For reviews on panels check the good panel / bad panel thread here




Q: Can I use a laptop panel??

A: Unfortunately laptops use proprietary connectors and pin outs. You are not
going to find a pinout and hook it up directly to your desktop computer. Driver boards for these panels that allow connection for a regular computer range up into several hundred dollars.

Q: What about a desktop panel?

A: Most desktop panels are 14" unfortunately most projector beds are not this big. Desktop panels also have special ribbon cables which are very very fragile and some are not long enough to allow the panel to be used for projection. The only panel that we know of that allows is the viewsonic vg150 but even then several people have had serious problems with this panel's cable breaking from being flexed one too many times.












Overhead projectors

Q:What is an overhead projector?

A: Commonly seen in schools an overhead projector is a projector that takes a transparency and projects it onto a screen. The LCD is semi transparent which allows it to be projected.

Q: Where can you buy overhead projectors?

A: You can buy overhead projectors from thrift stores,garage sales,office stores (expensive) and ebay.

Q: What is the difference between models of overheads?

A:


Projection type: There are two different types of overhead projectors transmissive and reflective. Reflective type overheads will not work for LCD projection.

Lumens : Lumens is probably the biggest factor in buying an overhead 4 thousand lumens is generally considered the minimum lumens for a overhead more lumens means a brighter image and having more ambient light allowed.

Bulb : Most cheaper overhead projectors use halogen bulbs these are somewhat bright but do not produce the lumens or color tempature that metal halides do. Plus halogens run very hot. Premium overhead projectors use metal halide bulbs these bulbs run cooler,produce better color tempature, more lumens and last longer then halogens. But they also cost more per bulb and require a ballast to run. Some metal halide projectors produce as much as 10,000 lumens!
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Old 14th August 2002, 08:31 AM   #2
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Darn good faq. Should be helpful for newcomers.

If a few more guys add information we could get it edited into a useful starter document.

Here's some questions

Can you get small metal halide lights
Do you need a reflector behind the light
Roughly how much does a metal halide light cost
Do you get more light from halogen or metal halide bulbs
Can a high power OHP + LCD panel be watched in daylight
Can my computer control a projection panel.
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Old 16th August 2002, 12:39 AM   #3
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Heres another. How bright is the lcd projector compared to those cheapy simple tv projectors sold on ebay? 2x brighter 3x brighter? And what are the hardest things about lcd projection to work around. Is it contrast? Brightness? (I know that one isnt a prob.) Getting the edges clear? Heat? Noise (fans)? And what is bare minimal for lumens on one of those and what color temp is neseceary? thanks.
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Old 20th August 2002, 01:05 AM   #4
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I have setup my webserver to host my FAQ Page. It has two new sections on it. This allows me to edit it whenever I want and add more to it.GO HERE
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Old 20th August 2002, 04:08 PM   #5
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Talking Nice!

Very nice, Mario007! Answers alot of questions. Should prevent the commen ones from coming up on the forum.
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Old 12th September 2002, 01:18 AM   #6
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Smile Great work!

Nice FAQ Mario (and nice teddy bears too ).

Also, some VERY nice screenshots!

I'll post a link to your site and faq on my page if you don't mind. And since you have a completed projector, would you mind posting the specs for a page of successful projects I maintain?

Just go to: http://www.louisville.edu/~wchall01/...or_submit.html
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Old 13th September 2002, 11:33 PM   #7
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Sure go ahead and use it anywhere you want as long as you're not selling it. Information should be free to all. I will try to submit my specs when I have time.
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Old 13th September 2002, 11:47 PM   #8
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thanks mario.

and no, there's no selling. its all free for the community.
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can you make a projector from an ARTOGRAPH, they're quite powerfull 60 to 500 watts. im thinking about getting one and im trying to get peoples ideas.

thank you very much.

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Old 26th April 2003, 01:37 AM   #10
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This is a follow up to some questions which were asked here but not all directly addressed.

In my research I have come across some of the answers.

1) Q. Can you get small metal halide lights.
A. Yes you can although the inexpensive for the amount of
light output available are commercial lighting bulbs which
are quite large. The small commercial metal halide bulbs
are usually lower wattage.

Small metal halide bulbs are usually referred to as HMI
which stands for halide metal iodine. These bulbs are
smaller but more expensive. They are used in the film
industry for artifical lighting that resembles true daylight.
HMI bulbs are closer to the wavelength of natural
daylight.

2) Q. More light from halogen or halide?
A. Both kinds can put out a lot of light but the halide are
more effecient at creating light and generate less heat.
The halide bulbs also create a more pleasant white color
than do the halogen.

3) Q. How much do metal halide cost?
A. The large bulbs which are meant for commercial lighting
fixtures range from 40 - 70 USD but that is only for the
bulb. All of these lights require a ballast which is usually
more expensive than the bulb and the higher the wattage
the more expensive the ballast.
Small HMI bulbs are about 125 - 500 USD and also need
the correct ballast.
175 watt ballast about 60 USD
400 watt ballast about 100 USD
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