Recommend Screen Material

vdi_nenna · 3rd July 2002, 05:22 PM

Recommended screen material other than Park-land Plastics.

Apogee · 3rd July 2002, 05:43 PM

I posted this some time ago as an idea and I'm not sure that anyone followed up...

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...yvek#post21879

SuperZoboo · 3rd July 2002, 06:24 PM

I've posted this before as well, but again our material of choice is called "blackout cloth". we are trying an approach to hang the fabric from a dowel rod. others have built a frame at www.avsforum.com and someone here was glueing this to foamboard. for a few more details check my site below.

ps. i chose this material because a guy at avsforum.com said after he built his screen and compared it with his high end da-lite screen, he was very satisfied, especially for the $1000 price difference.

clok · 3rd July 2002, 09:00 PM

I recently tried some HIGH GLOSS printing paper (friend works at a printing shop) and it works very well. I tried the gloss side and the flat side. The gloss side makes a brighter picture (with a dull and gloss side by side i noticed a brighter image on the gloss, i imagine it reflects more light back?), but here is where i run into a problem. Im useing an Overhead with LCD panel. I have a white dot in the center of the image, with gloss paper its almost annoying, with dull side its just noticeable, but not bad. Anybody have an idea on how to remove this? I have a thought on putting a tinted piece of plastic (smoke) about the size of a penny in the center of my Overhead panel..maybe work?

Clok

xblocker · 4th July 2002, 02:25 AM

clok,
you should try this gloss paper on the image corners. I suppose it isn't so bright anymore then, if you watch from projector side.
There are different types of front projection screens. Normal screens with white matte surface with gain 1.0 and viewing angle of 180 degrees. Then gain types: a. specular- angular reflecting, b. retro reflecting screens with gain up to 2.8.
Gain screens give enhanced brightness, but only in a smaller viewing angle (<35 degr.)
Gloss paper is some kind of specular-angular type, which tends to hotspotting, which can be very critical depending of viewers position.
For more information look at 'Dalite' homepage, there's something with 'educational'...stuff!

xblocker

eebasist · 12th July 2002, 05:48 PM

the blackout cloth works great although max width is 54 (or height) if you flip it.....actually has a gain of 1.2 ususally and is cheap. its great for use with 16:9 images

NordicNINE · 13th July 2002, 12:59 AM

Where can you find blackout cloth?

eebasist · 13th July 2002, 01:36 AM

jo-ann fabrics is where i got mine, any large fabric store should have it

vdi_nenna · 19th July 2002, 04:38 PM

Hi,

I picked up the black-out cloth last night. 5ft x 9ft. Got it at JoAnne Fabrics for $5.99 a yard. Just under $18.

There were 2 choices: 50/50 cotton and poly and 25/75 cotton and poly. I went with the 25/75. Both were dry clean only!

I tested it out last night with my projector and the A.I. DVD. It was an improvement in brightness and sharpness. It allowed for more ambient light in the room without over powering the projection.

Well worth the money.

Vince

eebasist · 19th July 2002, 04:51 PM

yep, this stuff and plastex are great DIY screen material.....they really work well and the most important thing is, that they are dirt cheap

3rd July 2002, 05:22 PM	#1
vdi_nenna diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: PA, USA	Recommend Screen Material Recommended screen material other than Park-land Plastics.

3rd July 2002, 05:43 PM	#2
Apogee diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tacoma, WA	I posted this some time ago as an idea and I'm not sure that anyone followed up... http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...yvek#post21879 __________________ "If I had my life to live over again, I would have made a rule to read some poetry and listen to some music at least once a week." - Charles Darwin

3rd July 2002, 06:24 PM	#3
SuperZoboo diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2002	Our material of choice I've posted this before as well, but again our material of choice is called "blackout cloth". we are trying an approach to hang the fabric from a dowel rod. others have built a frame at www.avsforum.com and someone here was glueing this to foamboard. for a few more details check my site below. ps. i chose this material because a guy at avsforum.com said after he built his screen and compared it with his high end da-lite screen, he was very satisfied, especially for the $1000 price difference. __________________ Operation: BIG SCREEN! results, info, and pictures...

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3rd July 2002, 09:00 PM	#4
clok diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2002	I recently tried some HIGH GLOSS printing paper (friend works at a printing shop) and it works very well. I tried the gloss side and the flat side. The gloss side makes a brighter picture (with a dull and gloss side by side i noticed a brighter image on the gloss, i imagine it reflects more light back?), but here is where i run into a problem. Im useing an Overhead with LCD panel. I have a white dot in the center of the image, with gloss paper its almost annoying, with dull side its just noticeable, but not bad. Anybody have an idea on how to remove this? I have a thought on putting a tinted piece of plastic (smoke) about the size of a penny in the center of my Overhead panel..maybe work? Clok

4th July 2002, 02:25 AM	#5
xblocker diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2001	clok, you should try this gloss paper on the image corners. I suppose it isn't so bright anymore then, if you watch from projector side. There are different types of front projection screens. Normal screens with white matte surface with gain 1.0 and viewing angle of 180 degrees. Then gain types: a. specular- angular reflecting, b. retro reflecting screens with gain up to 2.8. Gain screens give enhanced brightness, but only in a smaller viewing angle (<35 degr.) Gloss paper is some kind of specular-angular type, which tends to hotspotting, which can be very critical depending of viewers position. For more information look at 'Dalite' homepage, there's something with 'educational'...stuff! xblocker

12th July 2002, 05:48 PM	#6
eebasist diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2002	the blackout cloth works great although max width is 54 (or height) if you flip it.....actually has a gain of 1.2 ususally and is cheap. its great for use with 16:9 images

13th July 2002, 12:59 AM	#7
NordicNINE diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Minnesota, USA	Where can you find blackout cloth?

13th July 2002, 01:36 AM	#8
eebasist diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2002	jo-ann fabrics is where i got mine, any large fabric store should have it

19th July 2002, 04:38 PM	#9
vdi_nenna diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: PA, USA	Hi, I picked up the black-out cloth last night. 5ft x 9ft. Got it at JoAnne Fabrics for $5.99 a yard. Just under $18. There were 2 choices: 50/50 cotton and poly and 25/75 cotton and poly. I went with the 25/75. Both were dry clean only! I tested it out last night with my projector and the A.I. DVD. It was an improvement in brightness and sharpness. It allowed for more ambient light in the room without over powering the projection. Well worth the money. Vince

19th July 2002, 04:51 PM	#10
eebasist diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2002	yep, this stuff and plastex are great DIY screen material.....they really work well and the most important thing is, that they are dirt cheap

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