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Old 15th January 2003, 04:09 AM   #1
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Default Plextor cd-rom for audio- what do U think???

Hello guys,
I have Plextor Ultraplex 40X Ultra SCSI cd-rom drive,
and also got some DIRs, PCMs AD1853, OPA627, BUFs etc.

So, what's the goal - cd player with good DACs (I hesitate
between AD1853 and PCM1730) and this Plextor as a transport.
Well, my problem is - does anyone have any idea of where
could be spdif stream inside the cdrom?
Unfortunately I wasn't able to get any more in-depth tech
info on this Plextor ...however, I wont stop trying

One might ask why cdrom, instead of CDM or whatever.
Well, I used to have many cd players and must admit that
this cd rom reads everything( incomparison to CDM's, Sanyo
transports and many more). And, well, despite the fact
that I hear poor output stage on it at the moment, it has
some specific quality to its sound. Is is possible that because
od very good transport (I mean laser, servos etc) the final
sound quality isn't so bad with this cd rom?? (I am asking
because this was my impression, when I hooked it up
directly to power amps and my martin logans).

I wonder whether would it make sense to build very good
PS for it, hook it up to DIR and some good DAC's??

I know there were some theads on this subject, but I am
not talking _run-of-the-mill cdrom, but Plextor

Regards

Spherion
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Old 15th January 2003, 04:15 AM   #2
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Thumbs down I must say

Plextor for AUDIO
It stinks

or else You might Be a Genius!
if that works alright

/halo does like a little smell - if it can save a few bucks ....
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Old 15th January 2003, 04:27 AM   #3
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Okay, but any explanation, why??

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Old 15th January 2003, 04:33 AM   #4
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Default Spherion - I did not think I would have to

EXPLAIN - it is so simple ......
even my children, if I had any
would understand this (so they told me yesterday)


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Okay, but any explanation, why??
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Plextor is not built for Audio
It is built for data "0" and "1" Zeros and Ones.

How is that for an explaination?

/halo - believes in plain logic
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Old 15th January 2003, 06:52 AM   #5
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Halo,
Have you actually heard the Plextor? Or is this just a general opinion based on hearsay?
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Old 15th January 2003, 06:55 AM   #6
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Halo,
Have you actually heard the Plextor? Or is this just a general opinion based on hearsay?
Yes!
Variac.
It is based on hearsay.
And on my excellent logical capability.

How about yourself?

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Old 15th January 2003, 07:00 AM   #7
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nope, just wondering
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Old 15th January 2003, 10:38 AM   #8
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well..the audio signal on that stage is just zero:s and one:s aswell... but it migth be better to get one of the older IDE/Scsi units, NEC did do some rugged standalone players long a go...

There is Spdif availible on the IDE bus, do a generall technical search on google or similar.

www.diyzone.net have an IDE table aswell as a display addon somewhere on there site, if memory serves me.

Im also a bit curios about using such a transport while Im currently in the process of making a mini stereo setup



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Old 15th January 2003, 12:03 PM   #9
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On modern CD-ROM drives, the spdif signal is on a connector to the left of the analog audio connector (just two pins). But this connector is sometimes not correctly wired inside the drive. Simply test it (build an adapter). It worked fine on my Asus 40 and Pioneer DVD 105F, but did not on an LG DVD and Ricoh CDR...

What's more interesting is to control the playback capabilities of the drive without a computer...

And don't let someone tell you that CD-ROMS would sound worse than normal CDA drives...

I dare anyone (yes, and even those using high-end CD Players with modified clocks and DACs) to tell the difference in a BLIND A-B COMPARISON... (read the article on AB-Comparisons on ESP, it is very enlightening...)

Ciao,

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And don't let someone tell you that CD-ROMS would sound worse than normal CDA drives...

I dare anyone (yes, and even those using high-end CD Players with modified clocks and DACs) to tell the difference in a BLIND A-B COMPARISON... (read the article on AB-Comparisons on ESP, it is very enlightening...)

Ciao,

Arndt
You cannot be so bold as to claim anything of the kind. I am positive I could spot the difference.

You can better damp an audio CDP transport, and you have more room for circuitry.. these facts alone mean much less noise and error.

You either have a crap CDP or a poorly set-up system or no knowledge of what you are talking about. No offence.
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