CD Rip/SPDIF error

rgrayton · 5th October 2006, 04:33 PM

Hi Guys,
I am basically new to the digital domain, at least as it related to audio and this forum (coming from speaker and amp forums). I have been ripping CDs ossless wav format to my HD. I am thinking I did not lose (jitter) in this process. I have an M-Audio SPDIF output to an external DAC that I disconnected from my Cal Labs Transport. First brief listen sounded pretty good, but need a more thouroug eval. I am thinking this path should result in a decent reproduction, but that is a somewhat ignorant thought. What should I be concerned about? Can the rip introduce any clock errors? What is the USP/Is2 interface?
THX,
-BG

preiter · 5th October 2006, 08:46 PM

Copying a CD to a hard drive is just bits, no timing is involved.

It's only when you get into reproducing that music in real time that the timing of the bits matters.

You could save yourself some hard drive space by using a lossless compression codec like WMA lossless. It still uncompresses into a bit-perfect copy of the original.

rgrayton · 5th October 2006, 08:56 PM

preiter, thanks for getting back. I thought about the wma, but was not sure it was as ubiquitous as wav and I did not know exactly where I was going with this whole thing. What are my options as far as getting/playing from the HD? Is the Windows Media Player and M-Audio output combination "hi-fi"?

peufeu · 5th October 2006, 09:17 PM

I'd rather use FLAC as a codec because it's open source and supported by most players (foobar2k etc).

As for sound quality, since you use the digital output, it should be good !

rgrayton · 6th October 2006, 04:13 PM

peufeu,
What program will I need to rip using FLAC? I did not see it as an option on Windows Media Player. Actually, this whole rip/burn thing kind of snuck on me, but now that I know I can get quality sound from a HD library, I should look into something other than the bundled MS WMP.

What are my options for rip/burn... software?
THX,
BG

peufeu · 6th October 2006, 05:03 PM

download this and learn to use it, it's good :

http://exactaudiocopy.de

lucpes · 6th October 2006, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by peufeu
download this and learn to use it, it's good :

http://exactaudiocopy.de

More info at www.hydrogenaudio.org for PC audio.

preiter · 6th October 2006, 11:01 PM

I tried using FLAC and it doesn't seem to have the greatest support for ID3 tags. I have a program that will let me tag FLAC files, but my media players don't seem to recognize it.

For playback your options are many, Windows Media Player and Winamp are the most popular.

With a wireless router, you can use a networked media player like the Roku Soundbridge or the Slim Devices Squeezebox to play your music from anywhere in the house.

Then there are portables like the IPod.

rgrayton · 13th October 2006, 04:47 PM

Thanks, all for your replies. This has/will be very informative to me.
-BG

5th October 2006, 04:33 PM	#1
rgrayton diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: MA	CD Rip/SPDIF error Hi Guys, I am basically new to the digital domain, at least as it related to audio and this forum (coming from speaker and amp forums). I have been ripping CDs ossless wav format to my HD. I am thinking I did not lose (jitter) in this process. I have an M-Audio SPDIF output to an external DAC that I disconnected from my Cal Labs Transport. First brief listen sounded pretty good, but need a more thouroug eval. I am thinking this path should result in a decent reproduction, but that is a somewhat ignorant thought. What should I be concerned about? Can the rip introduce any clock errors? What is the USP/Is2 interface? THX, -BG

6th October 2006, 04:13 PM	#5
rgrayton diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: MA	Best Rip/Burn SW peufeu, What program will I need to rip using FLAC? I did not see it as an option on Windows Media Player. Actually, this whole rip/burn thing kind of snuck on me, but now that I know I can get quality sound from a HD library, I should look into something other than the bundled MS WMP. What are my options for rip/burn... software? THX, BG

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Marantz CD63 KI SIG, Error 12, Sled Error problem	sisik	Digital Source	1	9th November 2008 03:12 PM
SPDIF on cdrom to SPDIF on Digi Crossover	davidallancole	Digital Source	0	11th January 2007 03:26 AM
cdrom spdif quality / sound card spdif	metebalci	Digital Source	0	2nd September 2006 07:16 PM
spdif out to double spdif in	balthazard	Digital Source	0	1st March 2005 06:52 AM
Whats worse, 1db error in response curve or a phase error of 6?	primalsea	Multi-Way	5	13th May 2003 01:24 AM

New To Site?	Need Help?
Register to Participate Search Privacy Statement Contact Us	Frequently Asked Questions Did you forget your password? Mark Forums Read


	Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you. Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving

5th October 2006, 08:46 PM	#2
preiter diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006	Copying a CD to a hard drive is just bits, no timing is involved. It's only when you get into reproducing that music in real time that the timing of the bits matters. You could save yourself some hard drive space by using a lossless compression codec like WMA lossless. It still uncompresses into a bit-perfect copy of the original.

5th October 2006, 08:56 PM	#3
rgrayton diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: MA	preiter, thanks for getting back. I thought about the wma, but was not sure it was as ubiquitous as wav and I did not know exactly where I was going with this whole thing. What are my options as far as getting/playing from the HD? Is the Windows Media Player and M-Audio output combination "hi-fi"?

5th October 2006, 09:17 PM	#4
peufeu diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lyon, France	I'd rather use FLAC as a codec because it's open source and supported by most players (foobar2k etc). As for sound quality, since you use the digital output, it should be good !

6th October 2006, 05:03 PM	#6
peufeu diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lyon, France	download this and learn to use it, it's good : http://exactaudiocopy.de

6th October 2006, 11:01 PM	#8
preiter diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006	I tried using FLAC and it doesn't seem to have the greatest support for ID3 tags. I have a program that will let me tag FLAC files, but my media players don't seem to recognize it. For playback your options are many, Windows Media Player and Winamp are the most popular. With a wireless router, you can use a networked media player like the Roku Soundbridge or the Slim Devices Squeezebox to play your music from anywhere in the house. Then there are portables like the IPod.

13th October 2006, 04:47 PM	#9
rgrayton diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: MA	Thanks, all for your replies. This has/will be very informative to me. -BG

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)