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Antonio Tucci 6th August 2006 08:24 AM

suggestions for a new-used CD-player (to buy on e-bay)
 
I'm interested in buying an used CD-player on e-bay, with a max cost of 100 Euro.

I 'd employ it with a 2A3 SE amplifier (without pre-amplifier). So a 2 Vrms output is necessary (better if with a volume control).

Could you give me some suggestions (marantz ... philips ... NAD ... model ?) for the research ?

Many anticipated thanks

Antonio Tucci

sreten 6th August 2006 10:52 AM

Hi,

In my experience, and you can get them very cheap (compared to
the price new), Sony bitstream CD players can give good sound
quality and excellent facilities (including remote controlled ouput)
for the price you pay for them.

The makes you mention all have good sounding models but the ones
with reputations tend to go for more on e-bay, which is why I'm
suggesting you go for an "unknown" as such, expensive new, Sony.

:)/sreten.

Antonio Tucci 6th August 2006 05:52 PM

some models
 
Do you have some models to suggest ?
I was thinking to Marantz CD67 ... but as you said ... too many people are looking for ...and so the price is not low at all.

Antonio Tucci

sreten 6th August 2006 06:47 PM

Hi,

The turnover of sony models is high and one that is not in
current production is going to be cheaper than one that isn't.

Searching for ES is a start, these are the more expensive models.

I'm not sure the UK model numbers are the same as European.

:)/sreten.

kevinkr 11th August 2006 09:58 PM

One model to stay away from is the Sony SCD-XB770 multi channel SACD/CD player. (In case you got tempted at the thought of a cheap sacd player) At this point in time I would expect well used ones to be showing up at this price point. It looks moderately high end and was available for under 300 euros new. I have a UK version I paid over 200 pounds for + carriage and even with lots of modifications the performance on CD is still pretty mediocre on analog out. Spdif is not that much better. Oddly it isn't that great an SACD player either.

IMHO The Marantz CD-63SE and CD-67SE are highly over-rated, and I've had both. They're very tweakable, but stock can you spell mediocre? Even modded they aren't great shakes..

Sreten is right, some of those cheap Sony cd players sound very good. I can't speak to the one bit versions as I've only had PCM models. IMHO Try to find one that uses Analog Devices pcm dacs as they seem to sound good. I think there might be a list on the net somewhere. My old Sony CDP790 was one such and sounded very good with some basic mods. Not sure if a comparable model was sold in Europe, and this one dates back to the very early 1990's..

See here:

http://www.kta-hifi.net/articles/pf_articles.html
You want the very first article.

Some of the older Rotel stuff with Philips cd pro 9m mechanisms and the Pacific Microsonics pmd 100 digital filter and BB dacs are amazing and have the added bonus of good HDCD playback. (IIRC RCD880/990? Model numbers might be wrong!) Rotel RCD855 is a non hdcd model worth looking at.

Antonio Tucci 12th August 2006 05:41 AM

Thank you for your replay and suggestions.
Two further questions:

- Could you suggest specific Sony models.
- Is the Sony CDP-797 or CDP997 similar to the CDP-790 ?

Antonio

kevinkr 12th August 2006 03:35 PM

Unfortunately I don't have any specific suggestions. I think most models have some designation on the front panel that indicates the conversion technology used. I would also look for recommendations from others..


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