Can a DEQ2496 be used as a simple "de-esser"?

Cama · 26th May 2006, 11:47 AM

I use a Behringer DEQ 2496 in my hifi stereo set. It is really amazing what positive results you can get by using the GEQ and the PEQ. But now I wonder if I can use the Feedback Destroyer from the DEQ 2496 as a kind of “De-esser” to avoid the sharp esses that occur in many recordings of both male and female voices. I understand that the result will never be as good as when you use a dedicated De-esser or voice processor, but still. What adjustments should I make in the FBD? What frequency (s) must be killed?

kexik · 26th May 2006, 11:53 AM

frequency depends on particular singer, mic and distance; freq. analyser and/or param. eq. (with high Q) sweep from 3 to 6 khz are necessary for every single case.

pinkmouse · 26th May 2006, 12:49 PM

I'd be looking at the tweeters before adding any extra processing.

Cama · 26th May 2006, 01:27 PM

OK,

I have Magnepans MG12 planars. Initialy they sound bright and that is why I like them. But much recordings have esses that sound more than bright, shrill and not in balance with the rest of the sound. That is what I want to avoid or repair.

sreten · 26th May 2006, 02:12 PM

Hi,

can be one or a combination of the following :

a) Too bright treble sounds reasonably good (fast) until you come
across spoken or sung siibilants, adding a series resistor to MG
treble units is quite common as far as I'm aware.

b) Poorly recorded CD's or LP's (if LP's also too bright a cartridge).

c) Amplifier clipping at peak levels.

/sreten.

lykkedk · 26th May 2006, 06:58 PM

I have some 'sss' i would like to get rid of !

--->
adding a series resistor to MG
treble units is quite common as far as I'm aware.
<---

Could you explain ? I have a 3way speaker's setup

sreten · 27th May 2006, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lykkedk
I have some 'sss' i would like to get rid of !

--->
adding a series resistor to MG
treble units is quite common as far as I'm aware.
<---

Could you explain ? I have a 3way speaker's setup

Hi,

As far as I know 3-way Maggies are usually supplied with a
resistor that optionally can be placed in the treble circuit
to offer an alternative treble balance.

So I'd assume there is a jumper that can be removed, (the
treble unit is disconnected) and be replaced with a resistor.

/sreten.

26th May 2006, 11:47 AM	#1
Cama diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006	Can a DEQ2496 be used as a simple "de-esser"? I use a Behringer DEQ 2496 in my hifi stereo set. It is really amazing what positive results you can get by using the GEQ and the PEQ. But now I wonder if I can use the Feedback Destroyer from the DEQ 2496 as a kind of “De-esser” to avoid the sharp esses that occur in many recordings of both male and female voices. I understand that the result will never be as good as when you use a dedicated De-esser or voice processor, but still. What adjustments should I make in the FBD? What frequency (s) must be killed?

26th May 2006, 12:49 PM	#3
pinkmouse diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chatham, England	I'd be looking at the tweeters before adding any extra processing. __________________ Al I conceive of nothing, in religion, science or philosophy, that is more than the proper thing to wear, for a while. Charles Fort

26th May 2006, 06:58 PM	#6
lykkedk diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Denmark, Fredericia	I have some 'sss' i would like to get rid of ! ---> adding a series resistor to MG treble units is quite common as far as I'm aware. <--- Could you explain ? I have a 3way speaker's setup __________________ DIYAudio crazy.... LeachAmp, PearlPhono, Pumpkin, F4 DualMono, DDDac, HalfChang Spk., LinuxAudio, Squeezebox substitute, Drek inductorloaded pre-amp.

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26th May 2006, 11:53 AM	#2
kexik diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grenoble, France	frequency depends on particular singer, mic and distance; freq. analyser and/or param. eq. (with high Q) sweep from 3 to 6 khz are necessary for every single case.

26th May 2006, 01:27 PM	#4
Cama diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006	OK, I have Magnepans MG12 planars. Initialy they sound bright and that is why I like them. But much recordings have esses that sound more than bright, shrill and not in balance with the rest of the sound. That is what I want to avoid or repair.

26th May 2006, 02:12 PM	#5
sreten diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brighton UK	Hi, can be one or a combination of the following : a) Too bright treble sounds reasonably good (fast) until you come across spoken or sung siibilants, adding a series resistor to MG treble units is quite common as far as I'm aware. b) Poorly recorded CD's or LP's (if LP's also too bright a cartridge). c) Amplifier clipping at peak levels. /sreten.

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