New Olive CD-to-Lossless Harddisk-based Audiophile Player

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Originally posted by bordins

I hope to see big brands make lossless players with wi-fi. Only a dream ??

why? squeezebox + decent dac is amazing. lossless rips + usb dac + good clock in the dac would be icing on the cake, imo (and you can do that now). no need to wait for levinson or krell or whomever to bless such a thing to start enjoying it.


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[Charles Hansen]

Originally posted by bordins
I hope to see big brands make lossless players with wi-fi. Only a dream ??

We are currently looking at this, but have no immediate plans. Should we make a hard-drive based system, it will certainly *not* have wi-fi. Just turning on a wi-fi in the vicinity of a hi-fi system will degrade the sound noticeably.

[I_Forgot]

Originally posted by Charles Hansen
Just turning on a wi-fi in the vicinity of a hi-fi system will degrade the sound noticeably.

Yah, sure, youbetcha!

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[Charles Hansen]

I'm so sorry that either your system (or your hearing) is so poor that you can't hear this obvious degradation. However, I'm not sure why you would be bragging about this inadequacy in public...

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Originally posted by Charles Hansen
I'm so sorry that either your system (or your hearing) is so poor that you can't hear this obvious degradation. However, I'm not sure why you would be bragging about this inadequacy in public...

i share this deformity. is there a 12 step program to which you could direct us?


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[Charles Hansen]

Not sure I can help you...

Is the problem that you can't hear changes in your audio system? In that case I would recommend that you state your experience, for example, "I tried this experiment and heard no difference." If you also described your system then maybe others could make suggestions on how to improve it. Or possibly if you lived near someone with a better system, you could arrange for an audition.

Or is the problem that you also cannot refrain from insulting others with better audio systems and/or hearing acuity? In that case, perhaps a finishing school would be helpful.

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Originally posted by Charles Hansen
I'm so sorry that either your system (or your hearing) is so poor that you can't hear this obvious degradation. However, I'm not sure why you would be bragging about this inadequacy in public...

Originally posted by Charles Hansen
Or is the problem that you also cannot refrain from insulting others with better audio systems and/or hearing acuity? In that case, perhaps a finishing school would be helpful.

thank you for your input.

[davidsrsb]

WiFi is 2.4GHz or 5GHz bursts and fairly high power. Badly designed hifi will detect the rf carrier and make an audible buzz, same effect as GSM cellphones. Making the case rf resistant at WiFi frequencies is pretty hard because the seams are long in wavelengths. If it gets near one of these rubbish consumer "single sided with jumper links" pcbs you will have problems.

Ground planes make all the difference when you want a RF proof circuit. Equipment variation can explain the arguments above.

[Wombat]

Well, i have a Squeezebox myself and have some experience in comparing different digital sources with my DAC. The Squeezebox here sounds best when connected via optical. This way it equals my Marantz 5000. The Coax connection is clearly inferior to me. Maybe there is something creeping into my DAcs circuit.
I use a 3m optical cable to get my Squeezy well away of the rest of setup.
The display is fantastic and the menue makes it easy to find whatever you want in seconds. I use flac lossless and only mp3 for rare songs i never was able to get on CD.

[Wombat]

This Olive player looks pretty much the same as the Hifidelio from http://www.hermstedt.de/
I first was thinking about getting the Hifidelio but found some negative user reports out in the forums. One concern was the noisefloor of the internal HD. The headquater of hermstedt is in my hometown btw. I may visit them when i find some time.