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Old 17th January 2006, 11:33 PM   #1
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Default Ripping rate and format?

Hi All-

I did a search and the closest thing to it was this:

iTunes Ripping Question

So MY question is, has anyone here done format and rate comparisons?

I ripped about 80 discs with Microsoft Media Player (WMP) 10 @ 128kbs as WMA files.

I figured I better listen to some before I ripped any more so I loaded some of them on my SD memory card and put them in my iPAQ to listen to. The iPAQ had a couple of 192kbs songs on it that sound pretty decent for a hand held device.

My ripped songs sound like crap. Crackles, pops, and blimps…

I don't know if that extra bit of data rate helped or if my discs were scratched and WMP did not have error correction.

Tonight I'm going to try the same disc with the wife’s iTunes software and see if that helps any since I KNOW hers has EC.

Anyone else have input on this matter?
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Old 18th January 2006, 01:28 AM   #2
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Your screwed!

Windows format sucks. TIme to rip again at a much higher sample rate or better variable rate.

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Old 18th January 2006, 01:34 AM   #3
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Rab, I think you do well to rip with error correction as EC does, actually, correct errors which, being errors, are about as likely to sound good as monkeys typing typewriters will ....

I would also suggest ripping at the highest bit rate you can afford, space- and convenience-wise. I find 320, for instance, easily distinguishable from 128, which grates on my ears even in the short term, and find wav better than 320, especially in the long term.
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First, rip with EAC or a comparable program. If you get any errors, even sync errors, retry with another cd/dvd unit.

As for compression, if you prefer mp3 encode at least at 192kbit cbr or better at highest vbr quality using a good encoder, like lame.

If not try mpc at q7 or better.
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So a friend of mine said he uses these three (3)! programs to rip his discs to PC.

http://exactaudiocopy.de/
http://lame.sourceforge.net/
http://mitiok.cjb.net/


I am now thinking that I will have to do the same in order to make this listenable.

I am doing this to stop scratching my CD's as I drag them to and from the car, and to listen on my iPAQ while exercising but I still require at least DECENT sound.

Saving them uncompressed as WAV files (500 Meg per disc) is not an option, but ~50'ish Meg per disc is acceptable.

I will post later on the developments... I wish I wouldn't have opened this can of worms. Bless the ignorant.
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The solution I am trying next. Apparently this has been addressed and partially resolved.


http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index....e=EAC_and_Lame
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Old 18th January 2006, 05:27 PM   #8
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I would definately use lame for your encoding, there really aren't any other progs out there that maintain fidelity like that one. As far as file formats go, I'm partial to Ogg Vorbis and FLAC, which are lossless audio codecs, which supposedly compress files without losing audio information. In practice, they both sound MILES ahead of mp3.

And I agree with the previous poster, with mp3 encode at 320 or at least 192.
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Well I'm playing this back on Windows Media Player (WMP). Does it support those formats?

I will start looking now... But if you know..
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Old 19th January 2006, 01:25 PM   #10
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You will need a directshow filter for windows media player, try one of these:

One
Two

I couldn't say which one is more stable or faster, etc, I haven't used either, since I don't run Windows. The first one seems to be more currently maintained, and it seems to be the one I see preferred by most. I would try the first one, and if it seems slow or there are other problems, uninstall the first one, and just give the other one a try.
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